• pete_the_cat@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    I work in IT, and nothing against you, but a bunch of devs do write horrible, useless error messages. I can’t count the number of times I’ve seen an error message that just says “an error has occurred” and you’re left to figure out what error.

    For example, I have a smart air purifier that absolutely refuses to connect to my WiFi for some reason. You have to do the stupid ad-hoc/direct connection from your phone’s app to the device, then the device connects to WiFi. I follow all the steps on the app, it fails and then just says " an error has occurred, please try again.", it worked fine on my parents WiFi though!

    I have a Canon printer that is WiFi enabled (also has USB) and it’s the same thing. I tried using their damn app on Android, OS X, Linux, and Windows and it would just be like “An error has occurred”.

    • richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      edit-2
      11 months ago

      I work in IT, and nothing against you, but a bunch of devs do write horrible, useless error messages. I can’t count the number of times I’ve seen an error message that just says “an error has occurred” and you’re left to figure out what error.

      If the error message is that stupid, I’m 100% with you. I suspect that’s the result of a direct instruction to developers to dumb down the messages to avoid creating distress in users, which is idiotic.

      However, final users in a corporate environment should be taught that if they get a message with a lot of information, and they don’t understand that information, it’s not for them, and they need to leave it alone or take precise notes of what the message says, so somebody from IT who does understand it can act on it. But most users act like the error message is radioactive or they’re participating in a competition of who can dismiss the message faster: when support asks about the error, they say hey don’t know because they have dismissed it.

      • pete_the_cat@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        Almost every finished product I’ve seen has a generic error message like that which makes it extremely frustrating when you’re technical and actually want to attempt to fix the problem. I had the same issue with a WiFi connected Canon printer. As a dev myself, I know how difficult it can be to write a useful error message for every edge case, but it’s not that difficult to be a bit helpful lol

        Regarding users hatred of error messages: when I worked in my University’s computer lab about 15 years ago a student complained that she couldn’t download a file. I went with her to see what the issue was and had her show me what she was doing. She’d attempt to download the file, quickly dismiss a pop-up, and then angrily say “see?! It’s not working!!”. I told her to do it again, but not dismiss the pop-up so quickly so I could see what it said. Of course, it was asking for permission to save the file to the HDD and she kept clicking “no” 🤦‍♂️

        • GaMEChld@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          11 months ago

          I told her to do it again, but not dismiss the pop-up so quickly so I could see what it said.

          I shit you not, I’ve had a user do worse.

          I’ve done the same exact scenario as you with one difference. I told her the same thing you did. And then. She closed the message again. While I was pointing at it, and asking her to read it out loud.

          I.

          Pointed. At the screen. And said read this out loud.

          She moved her mouse to my finger.

          And closed the message.

          I.

          Can’t.

    • joejoe87577@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      11 months ago

      Quck note on that, many smart devices have trouble with wifi if the 2,4 ghz and 5 ghz have the same name. Rename the one of the two and it mostly works.

      • pete_the_cat@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        Yep, thanks. I’ve split the AP into 2.4 and 5 GHz because a lot of devices will tell you that outright tell you that(it’s ridiculous that they don’t put 5 GHz radios in them instead of leaving it up to the consumer. My $2500 LG OLED TV from 2018 has a 10/100 NIC on it, they couldn’t even be bothered to put a 1g NIC in it!)

        Still didn’t help. I’m using Unifiy APs and it’s something about them the devices hate 🤷‍♂️