neither Democrats nor Republicans own the votes: voters own their votes, and any candidate must earn it. voting for a so-called third party doesn’t take votes away from anyone: it adds votes to the candidate the voter wants to win
But voting is also a rational choice you’re making. If you throw your vote to a third party and then your second choice candidate loses to your bottom choice candidate, you done fucked up bad.
Voters need to be strategic and rational. In a closely-contested election between an actual fascist and a kind of milquetoast but surprisingly effective progressive, for example, voting for the third party would be a lot like consenting to fascism.
A third party vote can be a very effective way to send a message. But the third party candidates are also frequently weapons and tools used by a power-hungry minority to divide the opinions and values of the majority in order to unfairly win an election.
Most of the people who really advocate hard for voting third party seem to have just completely forgotten that primaries exist.
I mean, if you don’t think someone like Trump beating someone like Biden is a worse outcome than the alternative, than it truly doesn’t matter what you do with your vote I suppose. I think I’m just as happy with folks who think that way wasting their votes or not voting at all.
I maintain that throwing away a vote in a contested election like this is consenting to fascism though. You can justify it any way you want, but I’ll see you that way.
A vote is not an endorsement. It’s capital. It can be spent to try and affect some outcome. There’s no saving it for later, though.
You spend it knowing it will change nothing and possibly result in a slightly worse outcome for everyone. That’s selfish and pathetic. As usual, leftists so far up their own assholes they refuse to allow progress to happen because they value their purity tests more highly than saving the world.
Democrats ignore general election voters too, once they get power it’s back to the status quo and all the populous rhetoric they spoke while campaigning gets filed away until next election
neither Democrats nor Republicans own the votes: voters own their votes, and any candidate must earn it. voting for a so-called third party doesn’t take votes away from anyone: it adds votes to the candidate the voter wants to win
Trump thanks you for getting out of the way.
i’m voting against him.
But not really tho.
Cornel west is running against him.
Yep, I agree with you 100%.
But voting is also a rational choice you’re making. If you throw your vote to a third party and then your second choice candidate loses to your bottom choice candidate, you done fucked up bad.
Voters need to be strategic and rational. In a closely-contested election between an actual fascist and a kind of milquetoast but surprisingly effective progressive, for example, voting for the third party would be a lot like consenting to fascism.
A third party vote can be a very effective way to send a message. But the third party candidates are also frequently weapons and tools used by a power-hungry minority to divide the opinions and values of the majority in order to unfairly win an election.
Most of the people who really advocate hard for voting third party seem to have just completely forgotten that primaries exist.
Cornel West isn’t running in a democrat primary
you’re framing the options as though Biden or Trump would be my second or bottom choice. I would not choose them.
I mean, if you don’t think someone like Trump beating someone like Biden is a worse outcome than the alternative, than it truly doesn’t matter what you do with your vote I suppose. I think I’m just as happy with folks who think that way wasting their votes or not voting at all.
I maintain that throwing away a vote in a contested election like this is consenting to fascism though. You can justify it any way you want, but I’ll see you that way.
i didn’t say that. i said i wouldn’t choose either of them. and i have an alternative: voting for someone i do want to win.
i maintain voting for joe biden is ENDORSING genocide, not merely consenting to it.
A vote is not an endorsement. It’s capital. It can be spent to try and affect some outcome. There’s no saving it for later, though.
You spend it knowing it will change nothing and possibly result in a slightly worse outcome for everyone. That’s selfish and pathetic. As usual, leftists so far up their own assholes they refuse to allow progress to happen because they value their purity tests more highly than saving the world.
Bet you didn’t vote in the primary either.
I’m against genocide. That’s not a purity test.
you’re buying genocide
this is purely a personal attack. it’s speculative. it has nothing to do with whether I’m right.
4 replies to the same comment. This is unhinged-behavior.
this is a personal attack. what I say is true regardless of whether your characterization is favorable.
I’m against genocide. That’s not a purity test.
Democrats ignore primary voters
Democrats ignore general election voters too, once they get power it’s back to the status quo and all the populous rhetoric they spoke while campaigning gets filed away until next election
I thought that went without saying.