Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

  • Dirty AnCom@discuss.onlineEnglish
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    10 days ago

    Lol, posting Piefed as an alternative to reddit to Lemmy…

    Also, PeerTube is super obtuse to get an account and has almost no reach. You almost have to personally know someone who has a server or host your own. There’s a reason why video hosting has gotten so corporatized: it’s expensive. That said, almost “no one” used Mastodon for nearly a decade and it’s finally starting to take off, so maybe it just needs another decade or two.

    • Warl0k3@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 days ago

      A lot of people hesitate to promote lemmy because of how transphobic / authoritarian the lead devs are. It’s unfortunate, but if you’re concerned about that then piefed really is the more attractive option (I like my comment history too much to have switched yet but… man, it’s getting hard to justify not having done it.)

      • YTG123@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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        10 days ago

        And obviously the Piefed codebase is so politically and ethically agreeable… /s

        No one likes the lemmy lead devs or their stances. But, to my knowledge, they just keep doing their own thing over at .ml and never channel it into their actual codebase.

        When I first started here, I was on Kbin, and switched to lemmy because it was so much better. I considered switching to Piefed exactly because of these reasons you mentioned (I’ve already switched lemmy instances, comment history is not an issue for me), but when I looked into it there were so many just frankly aggravating things about the way it works and filters stuff by default (not to mention being written in Python, but that’s completely tangential) that I couldn’t do it.

        Sure, lemmy developers have backwards principles. But at least their software doesn’t. I completely get why someone would use Piefed instead, especially if they’re trans or of some other demographic directly targeted by the lemmy developers, but I wouldn’t do it myself (unless it gets better, of course).

        • GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          10 days ago

          And obviously the Piefed codebase is so politically and ethically agreeable… /s

          People are more likely to donate to a project that they actually use. If more people are using piefed, it means more money going to that project rather than a bunch of tankies. So I can see why people who disagree with the Lemmy devs might want to direct people elsewhere even if the software itself is apolitical.

        • Warl0k3@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          10 days ago

          It’s a testament to (if nothing else) the ability of the piefed devs to behave like adults that I know nothing about them personally. Nu/Des are horrible people, both politically and interpersonally, but that’s the beauty of FOSS: Those of us comfortable with separating the software from the creators get to stick with the software we prefer over one that lacks features or broad support (i.e. all the piefed apps I’ve tried have been pretty rough). Same energy as why people still use windows instead of linux.

    • GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      10 days ago

      Lemmy and Piefed are both Reddit alternatives. I’m not sure what all the pros and cons are of each, but Lemmy’s developers are tankies so probably better to direct users and funding to a different project. I’m only on Lemmy because I wasn’t aware of Piefed when I first joined.

  • Rose@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    11 days ago

    Also, to avoid doing unpaid labour for Jeff Bezos, go from Goodreads to Bookwyrm!

    • LobsterJim@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Bookwyrm is cool, it just needs more attention and interaction. It would be cool if it could expand into other forms of media (games, movies) like NeoDB, which again feels like posting into the void.

    • kazerniel@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 days ago

      There’s also StoryGraph - it’s not federated, but ran by a tiny UK company, but seems pretty popular. I like the content warnings feature and stuff like readers rating the pacing and moods of the books, which is then displayed with graphs on the book page, but they have also introduced some AI features :/ (fortunately opt-in)

        • merdaverse@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          10 days ago

          It’s impressive how Goodreads has been owned by 10+ years by the company with the largest cloud infrastructure and supposedly great engineers, and still it loads like shitty personal blog from the 2000s. It’s pretty obvious it was just bought so they could redirect traffic to Kindle store, just like IMDB redirects to Amazon Prime.

  • deleted@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    11 days ago

    Tiktok -> tiktok with less content and login required unless you like the 10 videos we have chosen for you.

    • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialOPEnglish
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      11 days ago

      I checked out Loops again last week, it’s alright but needs more content. I think it’ll get there if it keeps chugging along as it’s been doing.

      It’s still in Beta.

      • deleted@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        11 days ago

        Content volume will increase over time but requiring login killed it for me.

        Heck they’re even mimicking tiktok login begging techniques

  • khánh@lemmy.zipEnglish
    1·
    10 days ago

    Loops is mid. The community is pretty inactive, and the iOS build is quite buggy and lacking.

  • Bullerfar@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    10 days ago

    Maybe I am just noob at using it. But calling pixelfed a substitution to instagram, is maybe just a little reach… Pixelfed I found buggy, slow and dead community wise? Anyone to prove me wrong?

      • unknown1234_5@kbin.earth
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        9 days ago

        the ux is dependent on the app or webapp (usually tied to an instance) you are using, and mbin is the same ux as Lemmy like 90% of the time. there is only one mobile app (Interstellar) but its no worse than most Lemmy apps. i think the better federation alone would be enough to make it more popular if Lemmy wasnt the only thing being recommended for threads.

    • Nusm@peachpie.theatl.socialEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Since your Lemmy account is only 3 days old, I would recommend switching over to PieFed. It’s a much nicer experience and federates with all the same servers that Lemmy does, so you’re seeing the same posts but in a better way. You’re on lemmy.zip, and the same devs run piefed.zip.

      With a little curation of your community subscriptions, you can get a very similar experience to Reddit but better.

        • Nusm@peachpie.theatl.socialEnglish
          1·
          11 days ago

          I like the interface more than the Lemmy interface, but it also has a number of cool features that Lemmy doesn’t have. And the update schedule is crazy good. PieFed 1.5 has only been out about 3 weeks, and the dev just released 1.6 today with more features, updates, and fixes.

          Not to mention that there is some… questionable… behavior by the Lemmy devs. While the PieFed dev may not be perfect, he doesn’t have the baggage the Lemmy devs do, and I feel better using the PieFed software. It all connects to the same stuff.

    • baitu@jlai.luEnglish
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      11 days ago

      But BlueSky doesn’t support the fediverse yet, isn’t it?

    • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.comEnglish
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      11 days ago

      I’ve seen the Reddit users be more receptive of PieFed over Lemmy. In a post suggesting Lemmy, the Reddit users will just comment that it looks ugly, it’s confusing, devs are tankies, etc. Posts suggesting PieFed get less complaints and more signups.

      Also I think the instance choice is easier for PieFed compared to Lemmy. If you tell people to use Lemmy, they’ll probably end up on lemmy.world which is overpopulated, or lemmy.ml…

      • Nutomic@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        11 days ago

        Instead of recommending Lemmy in general, you should recommend a specific instance which matches the audience. For example someone posted about piefed.ca in /r/BuyCanadian. Or you can link to a different frontend like vger.app.

        I did make a redesign to join-lemmy.org recently so that new users can reach the registration page with a single click. I am also curious about any suggestions you have to improve the onboarding.

        • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.comEnglish
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          11 days ago

          join-lemmy.org looks much improved now! And yes linking directly to an instance is the way to go, I would’ve put URLs in this promotional image instead of just names

          I’m not sure if I have any specific ideas at the moment. It’s possible Lemmy has just reached a saturation point with Reddit where the people still on Reddit are the ones who bounced off Lemmy before, so they won’t give it another chance anytime soon, but they haven’t tried PieFed yet. Maybe the optimal strategy is to cycle between the recommendations to catch everyone with whatever suits them best. I think we should also try changing out the Mastodon recommendation and see if something else catches people who haven’t already switched to Fediverse microblogging.

          I think PieFed’s idea of asking new users what they want/don’t want to see is a good idea.

          • Nutomic@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1·
            10 days ago

            I made a couple of “Help Design Lemmy” posts in [email protected] recently to get feedback and ideas, which was very helpful. I will continue to make such posts to improve join-lemmy.org, and also Lemmy itself.

            Had a look at the Piefed signup now, choosing categories like that is a good idea. But the question is how these categories get curated. We have something similar with the instance topics on join-lemmy.org but no one is really helping to maintain them. So for community categories it would probably similar. In 1.0 we will have some improvements for discovery, like multi-communities and a “suggested communities” collection which can be set by local admins.

            For the Mastodon recommendation there isnt any good alternative software that I can see. So its probably best to recommend a single Mastodon instance, depending on the target audience.

        • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialOPEnglish
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          11 days ago

          That person was me.

          I’ve promoted Lemmy in the past only to be met with comments complaining about the ‘dogshit UX’ and tankeis.

          So I switched to promoting PieFed instead, and have had no such complaints.

          • Nutomic@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            11 days ago

            And so you decided to spread that misinformation further, instead of simply replying that it is wrong? I’m also very curious in what ways you consider Piefed’s UI better than Lemmy.

            • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialOPEnglish
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              11 days ago

              Good UX is all about removing friction and making users have to click less and think less.

              Users these days are expect their hands to be held and things to just work, that sadly is just the reality.

              Let me start off with saying, I started on Lemmy and even donated to Lemmy, PieFed can only grow because it’s standing on the shoulders of giants (lemmy)

              My alt is AnonomousWolf, you can look it up, since I joined I complained about bat UX, but people told me to GTFO. PieFed fixes many of those issues I complained about.

              Let me do a quick test and walk you through my thought possesses and UX. I’ll make 2 comments in this post, one for lemmy.ml one for piefed.social

              • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialOPEnglish
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                11 days ago

                – open https://lemmy.ml/
                – met with a list of posts, most images too small for me to see or read.
                – click on first post so that I can see the image - https://lemmy.ml/post/42503928 – taken to a page where I still can’t see the image I clicked to see – Click on the image, now I can see it.

                – See some comments
                – now I need to click back to continue

                – see another interesting post, image to small, can’t see so I have to click – https://lemmy.ml/post/42501566
                – Still can’t see image so I click on the image – now I’m taken to https://mecha.so/comet#overview
                – WTF, why am I on a different site? Why am I here,where are the comments – Realisze I can’t distinguish between Image posts and Links to a different site. – Why is this so confusing to browse?

                • Nutomic@lemmy.mlEnglish
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                  10 days ago

                  Sounds like you are specifically looking for a client focused on image browsing. In that case I would suggest linking to vger.app, phtn.app or blorp which I linked in another comment. Lemmy 1.0 will also have a card view which admins can set as default, where images are already expanded.

                  see another interesting post, image to small, can’t see so I have to click – https://lemmy.ml/post/42501566

                  This is only the link preview (indicated by the arrow icon), not an image post. Is the icon too small?