DS9 also had martial law declared on Earth. Some characters may refer to Earth as a paradise, but you as a viewer are supposed to realize that’s a comfortable illusion.
DS9 also makes it clear why the populace accepts martial law so cleanly and that part of it comes from a people who live in paradise and aren’t used to threats in their security.
That this episode was made 5 years before 9/11 is astounding in what it gets right about the populace of a democratic system filled with comfortable people accept a loss of liberty due to a perceived external threat.
That’s very true, and it might be fair to call Earth a kind of paradise before the Dominion war hit. I think we might actually be hitting up against an important distinction between “paradise” and “utopia”. To me, a paradise can be a brief and fragile perfect place that can’t long endure. But a utopia is a kind of political project that would need to be designed to survive threats and maintain itself. If a society becomes so complacent that just the idea of a foe can upend it, I wouldn’t consider it utopian.
Stated bluntly? Surely you jest. Which episode? The closest I can recall is when Sisko, in an emotionally charged rant called it a “paradise” compared to the frontier. But that’s far from describing it as Utopia. And even then, that’s just Earth. Not the entire Federation.
By DS9, it was bluntly stated that Earth was a utopia.
DS9 also had martial law declared on Earth. Some characters may refer to Earth as a paradise, but you as a viewer are supposed to realize that’s a comfortable illusion.
DS9 also makes it clear why the populace accepts martial law so cleanly and that part of it comes from a people who live in paradise and aren’t used to threats in their security.
That this episode was made 5 years before 9/11 is astounding in what it gets right about the populace of a democratic system filled with comfortable people accept a loss of liberty due to a perceived external threat.
That’s very true, and it might be fair to call Earth a kind of paradise before the Dominion war hit. I think we might actually be hitting up against an important distinction between “paradise” and “utopia”. To me, a paradise can be a brief and fragile perfect place that can’t long endure. But a utopia is a kind of political project that would need to be designed to survive threats and maintain itself. If a society becomes so complacent that just the idea of a foe can upend it, I wouldn’t consider it utopian.
Stated bluntly? Surely you jest. Which episode? The closest I can recall is when Sisko, in an emotionally charged rant called it a “paradise” compared to the frontier. But that’s far from describing it as Utopia. And even then, that’s just Earth. Not the entire Federation.
The Maquis Episode 1.
Technically it is paradise, but it feels equivalent enough.