the rest of the world is well past caring about Americans futilely commenting about their sense of shame on the Internet
I’m well past caring about the rest of the world tut-tutting and waiting for American wage slaves to solve an unprecedented global problem. If you’re not out in the streets demanding your government take proactive sanctions and tangible actions you are at least as culpable as any average US dissident who is risking a shit ton more than you. What’s your excuse?
Look at this fucking thread! Suddenly it “getting scary” because the demented old fuck wrote a grade-school level angry letter? It wasn’t scary before because the troops were aimed at internal opposition and third world countries? Give me a fucking break…
My excuse? I live in France buddy, do you think it’s on me and my fellow compatriot wageslaves to protest our government in order to make them act against your government? We have our own struggles to contend with if you can believe it, and even if we had the time and energy, how is it our place to try to repair the shit show going on in your country. As to our leaders, the US has been trying to brazenly fuck us for the past year, almost on the daily now, don’t you think if they could do more to defend themselves they would?
«As least as culpable» ? So, maybe more culpable? I don’t even know how to qualify that type of thinking. Again, it’s not my country, I only have to suffer the consequences of what’s going on there like the rest of the world. I guess, sorry there’s an ocean between us? My bad.
Tut-tutting?
The guy felt the need to apologise on behalf of the US. Except he doesn’t speak on behalf of the US. I appreciate they’re trying to be a good person but what am I supposed to do with it, is it supposed to make us feel better? Because to me it doesn’t. Thanks but it’s a meaningless gesture. Is it supposed to make them feel better? In which case, OK cool whatever. But I’m sorry my expressing a feeling of lassitude about American commentary adressed at us, Europeans and the reest of the world, upset you that much. I guess I’ll make sure to do better next time and put in efforts in my spare time to try help you fix your country for you?
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So it’s the wage slaves in other countries which must sort out your internal affairs instead?
One of my governments is already staunchly anti-Trump. The other one, hundreds of miles away, doesn’t listen to my region, which is why we have two governments in the first place. Am I to travel all the way from the north of Scotland to London because Americans can’t keep their house in order? Is the rest of the world meant to do similar?
Americans have loudly and proudly derided other countries for decades. Claiming they’re the best at everything, more freedom, more money, only country to have touched the moon, fuck yeah, than the rest of the world. The Land of the Brave. The Land of the Free. Freedom™. Freedom to carry weaponry on the off chance you have a tyrannical government that needs overthrown.
And yet we’re the ones being told off for getting annoyed that we all must suffer because of your internal politics?
Do you not think other parts of the world have their own struggles to deal with? Their own political campaigns for/against various things?
This is an American problem to be dealt with by Americans.
One of my governments is already staunchly anti-Trump.
Neat, what have they actually fucking done? They could freeze/sieze the assets of any of the fascists backing this regime at any time. They could issue arrest warrants for any of these republican congressmen doing their fascist world tours. They could shut down access to captured American social media platforms. Are they doing any of that? Because they could sign a piece of paper and have those checked off by tomorrow.
Am I to travel all the way from the north of Scotland to London
😂😂😂😂😂 It’s 40 hours minimum for the 4 million people in Los Angeles to reach Washington DC. Or are Americans supposed to get a critical mass of opposition to the Capitol on commercial flights; just checking their torches and pitchforks before takeoff?
But a ten hour trip to London is too much? Couldn’t be bothered to take a weekend flight and spend <$150 to make a physical display of your displeasure?
Americans have loudly and proudly…
Beautiful straw man you’ve got there. Too bad the 90% of the country that doesn’t watch fox news hasn’t held anything close to those opinions for 30+ years. You can just look this shit up, we live in 2026.
And yet we’re the ones being told off for getting annoyed that we all must suffer because of your internal politics?
And yet I’m the one who has to untangle the decades of hyper-dependence your milquetoast neolib governments have built up around a crumbling USA? I don’t have more pressing concerns? I should put the physical safety and wellbeing of my local community aside because it’s becoming concerning for you?
This is an American problem to be dealt with by Americans.
The arrogant, self obsessed, cultural and historical ignorance is astounding.
I try not to prejudge or stereotype people but Americans make it really fucking difficult sometimes. Y’all so often think other people of the world have never interacted with any of you before. That we’ve not grown up with your culture shoved into our faces along with our own. That we’ve not witnessed your politics, both foreign and domestic, as much as you have.
We’ve witnessed your atrocities, we’ve seen your population do nothing. We’ve seen your obsession with money, power, guns, and greed. Not every American, obviously, but enough of you that as a nation that is what you are known for. We’ve seen your multiple wars. We’ve seen your complicity in genocide. We’ve seen your population at large do fuck all. We’ve seen the slow and painfully obvious descent into fascism and your population at large continuing about their day as if nothing is wrong.
We all have issues. Many country’s issues are even caused by your country. Many country’s issues are worse than yours. Why would we deal with yours before our own?
This is internal American politics. Unless you want to be invaded, this is an American problem for Americans to deal with.
Is it shit? Absofuckinglutely. But life is shit for many around the world. America has been largely insulated from that, and now that you’re experiencing it firsthand you expect the world to come running? Good fucking luck.
You’re one hundred percent free to take that position, but it’s not arrogance when half this thread is Europeans looking down their nose as if they have any fucking clue what’s happening in the USA today. Spare me the lectures if it’s an internal problem.
I don’t want to read a single comment panicking over a Trump tweet or letter. I don’t want any more debates with EU commenters pretending they know the US constitution, laws, election process, or insitutional corruption better than I do. I don’t want to hear from anyone who’s reading headlines from halfway around the world and dismissing my experiences (“just do something”). I don’t wanna hear shit from any armchair revolutionaries living in countries where the police can’t even carry pepper spray.
If you all can’t agree to do that then see my original comment: fuck off and take your own political initiative. Maybe you’ll start to understand why this isn’t some inconvenient internal problem when the largest military in the world is blockading your ports and kidnapping your leaders. “Good fucking luck”
but it’s not arrogance when half this thread is Europeans looking down their nose as if they have any fucking clue what’s happening in the USA today.
Being arrogant in response to a perceived slight doesn’t cancel out the arrogance.
I’m not commenting on your response specifically I’m saying your argument here doesn’t make any sense.
Everyone has a constant feed on what’s happening in America, not just the news and propaganda outlets but the direct social media reports of thousands of day to day people.
I don’t want to read a single comment panicking over a Trump tweet or letter. I don’t want any more debates with EU commenters pretending they know the US constitution, laws, election process, or insitutional corruption better than I do.
That’s easily solvable, don’t hang out in a space called “FuckTheUSA”, it’s like a vegan being offended by meat preparation after making a reservation and walking in to “BIG JOE’S 100% REAL STEAKHOUSE AND BURGERS”.
Probably best to avoid all of the topics that are very obviously things you don’t want to see the comments on.
Living in a country gives you lived experience, it’s doesn’t automatically grant you intellectual superiority on “US constitution, laws, election process, or insitutional corruption” , if that was the case, those voting percentages would be different.
I don’t want to hear from anyone who’s reading headlines from halfway around the world and dismissing my experiences (“just do something”). I don’t wanna hear shit from any armchair revolutionaries living in countries where the police can’t even carry pepper spray.
AFAICT nobody in this thread has said you personally should be doing anything above and beyond the normal voting and campaigning you’d normally do ( i could have missed it, feel free to link any missed statements ).
A great deal of police forces are allowed to carry pepper spray ( or some other form of non-lethal ), many of them also have access to firearms, though obviously not at the scale of the USA I’m sure if we had a senile despot funding a force of untrained bigoted assholes to go out and feel good about themselves, they’d open up that access pretty quickly.
Also, and i don’t mean this as an attack, unless you are actually out there doing something tangible, that would also make you an “armchair revolutionary”, albeit one immersed in the situation.
Maybe “FuckTheUSA” should be something besides hand-wringing and lectures. Clearly you’re not committed to the cause if you’re complaining about me pointing out tangible, real world actions they can take to “fuck the USA”
I’m well past caring about the rest of the world tut-tutting and waiting for American wage slaves to solve an unprecedented global problem. If you’re not out in the streets demanding your government take proactive sanctions and tangible actions you are at least as culpable as any average US dissident who is risking a shit ton more than you. What’s your excuse?
Look at this fucking thread! Suddenly it “getting scary” because the demented old fuck wrote a grade-school level angry letter? It wasn’t scary before because the troops were aimed at internal opposition and third world countries? Give me a fucking break…
I’m sorry. What?
My excuse? I live in France buddy, do you think it’s on me and my fellow compatriot wageslaves to protest our government in order to make them act against your government? We have our own struggles to contend with if you can believe it, and even if we had the time and energy, how is it our place to try to repair the shit show going on in your country. As to our leaders, the US has been trying to brazenly fuck us for the past year, almost on the daily now, don’t you think if they could do more to defend themselves they would?
«As least as culpable» ? So, maybe more culpable? I don’t even know how to qualify that type of thinking. Again, it’s not my country, I only have to suffer the consequences of what’s going on there like the rest of the world. I guess, sorry there’s an ocean between us? My bad.
Tut-tutting?
The guy felt the need to apologise on behalf of the US. Except he doesn’t speak on behalf of the US. I appreciate they’re trying to be a good person but what am I supposed to do with it, is it supposed to make us feel better? Because to me it doesn’t. Thanks but it’s a meaningless gesture. Is it supposed to make them feel better? In which case, OK cool whatever. But I’m sorry my expressing a feeling of lassitude about American commentary adressed at us, Europeans and the reest of the world, upset you that much. I guess I’ll make sure to do better next time and put in efforts in my spare time to try help you fix your country for you?
iF yOuR nOT dOiNg oUr JOb fOR uS ThEn i dONt waNt tO kNOw
So it’s the wage slaves in other countries which must sort out your internal affairs instead?
One of my governments is already staunchly anti-Trump. The other one, hundreds of miles away, doesn’t listen to my region, which is why we have two governments in the first place. Am I to travel all the way from the north of Scotland to London because Americans can’t keep their house in order? Is the rest of the world meant to do similar?
Americans have loudly and proudly derided other countries for decades. Claiming they’re the best at everything, more freedom, more money, only country to have touched the moon, fuck yeah, than the rest of the world. The Land of the Brave. The Land of the Free. Freedom™. Freedom to carry weaponry on the off chance you have a tyrannical government that needs overthrown.
And yet we’re the ones being told off for getting annoyed that we all must suffer because of your internal politics?
Do you not think other parts of the world have their own struggles to deal with? Their own political campaigns for/against various things?
This is an American problem to be dealt with by Americans.
No fascist regime has ever been replaced without foreign intervention, and no revolution has ever been successful without international support…
Neat, what have they actually fucking done? They could freeze/sieze the assets of any of the fascists backing this regime at any time. They could issue arrest warrants for any of these republican congressmen doing their fascist world tours. They could shut down access to captured American social media platforms. Are they doing any of that? Because they could sign a piece of paper and have those checked off by tomorrow.
😂😂😂😂😂 It’s 40 hours minimum for the 4 million people in Los Angeles to reach Washington DC. Or are Americans supposed to get a critical mass of opposition to the Capitol on commercial flights; just checking their torches and pitchforks before takeoff?
But a ten hour trip to London is too much? Couldn’t be bothered to take a weekend flight and spend <$150 to make a physical display of your displeasure?
Beautiful straw man you’ve got there. Too bad the 90% of the country that doesn’t watch fox news hasn’t held anything close to those opinions for 30+ years. You can just look this shit up, we live in 2026.
And yet I’m the one who has to untangle the decades of hyper-dependence your milquetoast neolib governments have built up around a crumbling USA? I don’t have more pressing concerns? I should put the physical safety and wellbeing of my local community aside because it’s becoming concerning for you?
If it was you wouldn’t be replying
No wonder your country is fucked.
The arrogant, self obsessed, cultural and historical ignorance is astounding.
I try not to prejudge or stereotype people but Americans make it really fucking difficult sometimes. Y’all so often think other people of the world have never interacted with any of you before. That we’ve not grown up with your culture shoved into our faces along with our own. That we’ve not witnessed your politics, both foreign and domestic, as much as you have.
We’ve witnessed your atrocities, we’ve seen your population do nothing. We’ve seen your obsession with money, power, guns, and greed. Not every American, obviously, but enough of you that as a nation that is what you are known for. We’ve seen your multiple wars. We’ve seen your complicity in genocide. We’ve seen your population at large do fuck all. We’ve seen the slow and painfully obvious descent into fascism and your population at large continuing about their day as if nothing is wrong.
We all have issues. Many country’s issues are even caused by your country. Many country’s issues are worse than yours. Why would we deal with yours before our own?
This is internal American politics. Unless you want to be invaded, this is an American problem for Americans to deal with.
Is it shit? Absofuckinglutely. But life is shit for many around the world. America has been largely insulated from that, and now that you’re experiencing it firsthand you expect the world to come running? Good fucking luck.
You’re one hundred percent free to take that position, but it’s not arrogance when half this thread is Europeans looking down their nose as if they have any fucking clue what’s happening in the USA today. Spare me the lectures if it’s an internal problem.
I don’t want to read a single comment panicking over a Trump tweet or letter. I don’t want any more debates with EU commenters pretending they know the US constitution, laws, election process, or insitutional corruption better than I do. I don’t want to hear from anyone who’s reading headlines from halfway around the world and dismissing my experiences (“just do something”). I don’t wanna hear shit from any armchair revolutionaries living in countries where the police can’t even carry pepper spray.
If you all can’t agree to do that then see my original comment: fuck off and take your own political initiative. Maybe you’ll start to understand why this isn’t some inconvenient internal problem when the largest military in the world is blockading your ports and kidnapping your leaders. “Good fucking luck”
Being arrogant in response to a perceived slight doesn’t cancel out the arrogance.
I’m not commenting on your response specifically I’m saying your argument here doesn’t make any sense.
Everyone has a constant feed on what’s happening in America, not just the news and propaganda outlets but the direct social media reports of thousands of day to day people.
That’s easily solvable, don’t hang out in a space called “FuckTheUSA”, it’s like a vegan being offended by meat preparation after making a reservation and walking in to “BIG JOE’S 100% REAL STEAKHOUSE AND BURGERS”.
Probably best to avoid all of the topics that are very obviously things you don’t want to see the comments on.
Living in a country gives you lived experience, it’s doesn’t automatically grant you intellectual superiority on “US constitution, laws, election process, or insitutional corruption” , if that was the case, those voting percentages would be different.
AFAICT nobody in this thread has said you personally should be doing anything above and beyond the normal voting and campaigning you’d normally do ( i could have missed it, feel free to link any missed statements ).
A great deal of police forces are allowed to carry pepper spray ( or some other form of non-lethal ), many of them also have access to firearms, though obviously not at the scale of the USA I’m sure if we had a senile despot funding a force of untrained bigoted assholes to go out and feel good about themselves, they’d open up that access pretty quickly.
Also, and i don’t mean this as an attack, unless you are actually out there doing something tangible, that would also make you an “armchair revolutionary”, albeit one immersed in the situation.
Maybe you shouldn’t come into a community called FuckTheUSA then…
Maybe “FuckTheUSA” should be something besides hand-wringing and lectures. Clearly you’re not committed to the cause if you’re complaining about me pointing out tangible, real world actions they can take to “fuck the USA”
Sush orc.
Act like Russian orcs, you’ll get treated like American orcs.
And this is why other people are done with apologies from Americans.
I should just save myself time and bookmark my previous post to link to. It’s always the same two responses: