This is very recent, however this does feel like a picture future generations should see.

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Photo by Pierre Lavie. Yes this is me. And I threw my Leica. It landed on the bass plate with hardly a scratch. Another photographer grabbed it along with my phone and I was able to track him later. I was held face down tear gas deployed right in front of me and pepper sprayed directly into the eye.

– John Abernathy

  • PugJesus@piefed.socialM
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    On one hand, I’m hesitant to keep up something this recent as ‘history’.

    On the other hand, Jesus fucking Christ, I hate living through history.

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      I understand if you want to take it down. I’m not sure on the technical requirements of a historic photograph. This did strike me as one however.

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        I think I’ll leave it up for now for visibility’s sake, but I’ll probably remove it because it doesn’t fit the ‘archive’ of things. I feel like at least a few years should pass before something is history.

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          Can I cast a vote for keeping it? History is happening right now, and it needs to be seen. Were it a more mundane event, I might share your opinion that it needs to wait before it is history, but this is part of a wave of events that is changing life now, and for the future.

          The community sidebar says:

          HistoryPhotos is for photographs (or, if it can be found, film) of the past, recent or distant! Give us a little snapshot of history!

          I would say that this is definitely a snapshot of recent history, and it will reverberate for years to come.

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            I’ll sit on the thought for a bit. Please remember, though, that this comm is not meant to be for news, no matter how important.

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              But on the third hand, that photo though. I’d not be surprised to see it at this year’s World Press Photo exhibition. What it lacks in history it makes up for in the photo part.

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              We’re making history here in US, and it’s very similar to historical Germany

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          I think the line between history and current events is blurry, but I think that line exists around midnight of the previous night. These are tumultuous times with lots of history being made.

          I think this photograph should stay.

        • CubitOom@infosec.pubOP
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          I’ve post this in a few different communities. So feel free to delete if it is deemed to be in conflict with the spirit of the community.

        • U7826391786239@lemmy.zip
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          at least a few years should pass before something is history

          the thing is that images like this, while definitely being historical, will probably become illegal at some point. imo it’s important to spread these thing as far and wide as possible, even if it’s “new”

          we are living through america’s transition into fascism, and very likely its complete collapse. the sub “rules,” i think, should be the least of your concerns at this point

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            we are living through america’s transition into fascism, and very likely its complete collapse. the sub “rules,” i think, should be the least of your concerns at this point

            Fuck man, I’m stressed about the state of my rotting fucking country 22/7, let me have my two hours of enjoying history per day.

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                Ha, I’d like to stop someday. Ideally, I’d only post occasionally instead of all the time, but the comms need to have a bit of self-sustaining activity before I’m willing to stop.

                HistoryPhotos here is getting close, I hope!

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            Which can be done in another community.

            On the other hand, this looks so much like the historical pictures and events we’ve seen that it blends right in.

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          Yeah it might be historic but it isn’t history. Leave it a few teas though and it may as well be both.

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      I think this has a good chance of being an iconic photo of a historic time. I wouldn’t say it’s as immediately significant as a picture of the astronauts on the moon, or as unique, bit this is one of the best pictures I’ve seen to show the new depths of fascism in America. Freedom of speech? Freedom of the press? As they tackle and arrest a person whose most dangerous weapon is a camera. This kind of thing has certainly happened before, and more often recently, but you bet America and the world will be talking about situations like this using images like this when we next (hopefully) get past this horrible phase and talk about how things got so bad and when it happened.

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        I think it’s a great and powerful pic, I just think “This will be historical in the future” is not really what the comm is meant for.

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          I just came across your final decision from an hour ago, and its a pretty fair stance. Glad it’s staying up, can respect not wanting to curate what current events might just be historic.

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      Jesus fucking Christ, I hate living through history.

      Right there with you, remember when there was a time that years would go by without huge events. Ever since 2001 we have been on this rollercoaster of once in a lifetime events.

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      I always think of this chinese proverb that is most certainly not a real proverb, wish for your enemy to live in exciting times.

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      Although recent, it is definitely historical in nature and worthy of being archived.