• FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      I always tell people when you get far enough left you end up back in the pro gun camp.

      Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary

      • Karl Marx

      I always describe myself as an “under no pretext” gun supporter rather than a “shall not be infringed” supporter.

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        5 days ago

        Funny enough, every other country with strict gun laws don’t deal with a percentage of the bullshit America does.

        Also funny enough, the “shall not be infringed” comes long after a pretty pivotal phrase of “well organized militia”. Unless you’re a well organized militia, the 2nd doesn’t apply to you.

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          5 days ago

          Unless you’re a well organized militia, the 2nd doesn’t apply to you.

          That’s not how the courts have interpreted that old English. Rather that the opening phrase is an example of how the right of the people could be applied, not that it is the only way it could be applied. Language evolves, but that doesn’t necessarily mean how we interpret a phrase written 200+ years ago should evolve with it. If you want to change the amendment, then you need a new amendment.

          • eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            5 days ago

            Nah that’s how it was conventionally interpreted (as a collective not individual right). You’re giving a c20 reinterpretation and claiming it was original.