Its the BPPFSD. Currently the last thing anyone needs is people filtering in from all over the country just to start shit. ICE included. There is no valid criticism against residents defending themselves against fascists.
If city hall, the governor, or state Congress manage to achieve much. It will unfortunately be too little too late. Though it does look like they’re trying. So props for that I guess. It’s definitely more than our local government would do for us.
Walking your fully automatics down the street is a defence? Of what? The curb?
Would it not be more effective to bring flashbangs and riot shields? Or a firehose? No, instead they’re bringing militant extremist onto mainstreet which will legitimize any use of force the Trump admin uses to retaliate.
Bullies want weak prey. If their targeted prey are packing, they’re booking it out of there. The other things are good. But the fact that their next murder might end in a hail of bullets on them. That’s the only thing that would make them think twice.
If you flashbang them they’re going to treat you as if you were armed. Be armed. If you’re brandishing a shield, they’re going to treat you as if you’re armed and waiting to assault them. Be armed. If you hit them with a firehose, they’re going to treat it as deadly assault. Like colliding with an agent at 2mph. Be deadly. There’s more of us than them.
Trump is fighting the courts and his own people in congress over whether or not he can send in a fullscale military response. There is nothing strong about bringing a big gun to the protest, it shows you’re afraid and that you’re willing to endanger the lives of countless others.
Their lives are already endangered. They’ve murdered many already. They should be afraid. Any court that would justify him sending in the military against citizens. Exercising their constitutionally protected rights, is an invalid court. which, by the way, the courts will ultimately allow.
3 dead in one state, some number between 5 and 20 spread across the USA in a year, it’s a systemic problem that needs to be immediately stopped but I can tell you it is not open warfare. It’s not the LA Riots, it’s not Tienanmen Square. It is not the Great Purge of 37. It will rapidly approach those events, perhaps even surpass them, if we idolize gun violence and keep pulling stunts like this, though.
That’s the problem with accelerationists like the BPP and right wing anarchists, they’re completely fine with death and violence if it has any chance of making themselves less governable. They hate the social contract.
What we need to be doing is expanding our community, making people realize this is all of our problems, and convincing the larger whole to collectively do something about this. Make them realize it’s not the Black Panthers or the Cartel at risk, far from it, it will be them and their picket fence next, it will be their hedges, their children’s education, their freedoms, because we are all at risk.
Open carry isn’t open warfare. Where are you getting that. The BPPFSD is solidly leftist. The original group were Marxist, and weren’t accelerationist. Hate to break it to you, all anarchist are fine with this sort of self defense. 100% left anarchist like myself support this and the panthers.
Open carrying isn’t acceleration-ism or a call to violence. Quite the opposite. It’s to provoke them to think twice before their next murder. The fash will and have always been the ones to accelerate. California’s strict gun laws? All because a chimp’s co star turned fascist was afraid to see black men carrying and defending themselves. Not that they killed someone. Just that they were carrying.
That’s the problem with accelerationists like the BPP and right wing anarchists
If you are lumping the Black Panther Party in with right-wing anarchists you know little about the Black Panthers. I’m not going to debate you on this fact.
It’s our batshit gun culture and debate. It’s highly tied to the perceived right here. Therefore anything with guns involved sort of gets lumped “right”. You’re absolutely right. As I also said, the Panthers historically and still generally are anything but right wing. I think that’s where this is coming from though.
That’s just defeatism. You don’t have bigger guns than the US Military. What you need to defeat fascism is widespread support for your cause. History has shown this countless times.
Watch it again, he says it’s a semi-automatic shotgun. It looks like a RIA VR-80, or a Turkish clone. Either way, it’s not a full automatic, I’ve got a VR-80 and an 82, neither a full auto.
Its the BPPFSD. Currently the last thing anyone needs is people filtering in from all over the country just to start shit. ICE included. There is no valid criticism against residents defending themselves against fascists.
If city hall, the governor, or state Congress manage to achieve much. It will unfortunately be too little too late. Though it does look like they’re trying. So props for that I guess. It’s definitely more than our local government would do for us.
Walking your fully automatics down the street is a defence? Of what? The curb?
Would it not be more effective to bring flashbangs and riot shields? Or a firehose? No, instead they’re bringing militant extremist onto mainstreet which will legitimize any use of force the Trump admin uses to retaliate.
Bullies want weak prey. If their targeted prey are packing, they’re booking it out of there. The other things are good. But the fact that their next murder might end in a hail of bullets on them. That’s the only thing that would make them think twice.
If you flashbang them they’re going to treat you as if you were armed. Be armed. If you’re brandishing a shield, they’re going to treat you as if you’re armed and waiting to assault them. Be armed. If you hit them with a firehose, they’re going to treat it as deadly assault. Like colliding with an agent at 2mph. Be deadly. There’s more of us than them.
Trump is fighting the courts and his own people in congress over whether or not he can send in a fullscale military response. There is nothing strong about bringing a big gun to the protest, it shows you’re afraid and that you’re willing to endanger the lives of countless others.
Their lives are already endangered. They’ve murdered many already. They should be afraid. Any court that would justify him sending in the military against citizens. Exercising their constitutionally protected rights, is an invalid court. which, by the way, the courts will ultimately allow.
3 dead in one state, some number between 5 and 20 spread across the USA in a year, it’s a systemic problem that needs to be immediately stopped but I can tell you it is not open warfare. It’s not the LA Riots, it’s not Tienanmen Square. It is not the Great Purge of 37. It will rapidly approach those events, perhaps even surpass them, if we idolize gun violence and keep pulling stunts like this, though.
That’s the problem with accelerationists like the BPP and right wing anarchists, they’re completely fine with death and violence if it has any chance of making themselves less governable. They hate the social contract.
What we need to be doing is expanding our community, making people realize this is all of our problems, and convincing the larger whole to collectively do something about this. Make them realize it’s not the Black Panthers or the Cartel at risk, far from it, it will be them and their picket fence next, it will be their hedges, their children’s education, their freedoms, because we are all at risk.
Open carry isn’t open warfare. Where are you getting that. The BPPFSD is solidly leftist. The original group were Marxist, and weren’t accelerationist. Hate to break it to you, all anarchist are fine with this sort of self defense. 100% left anarchist like myself support this and the panthers.
Open carrying isn’t acceleration-ism or a call to violence. Quite the opposite. It’s to provoke them to think twice before their next murder. The fash will and have always been the ones to accelerate. California’s strict gun laws? All because a chimp’s co star turned fascist was afraid to see black men carrying and defending themselves. Not that they killed someone. Just that they were carrying.
Not yet .
If you are lumping the Black Panther Party in with right-wing anarchists you know little about the Black Panthers. I’m not going to debate you on this fact.
It’s our batshit gun culture and debate. It’s highly tied to the perceived right here. Therefore anything with guns involved sort of gets lumped “right”. You’re absolutely right. As I also said, the Panthers historically and still generally are anything but right wing. I think that’s where this is coming from though.
There are no right wing anarchists. Anarchy just means no hierarchies.
You’re wrong. Armed resistance works.
Nope. Their leader said it correctly, if you want to win against fascists you need to bring bigger guns than they have. It’s working so far.
Didn’t work out for Renee Good when she was being peaceful and said “I’m not mad at you” just to get shot in the face.
Do you think any of the fascists would have dared to even approach her car if there were armed neighbours defending her?
ICE are fucking cowards. Bigger guns are the way to deal with bullies.
That’s just defeatism. You don’t have bigger guns than the US Military. What you need to defeat fascism is widespread support for your cause. History has shown this countless times.
You’re wrong. Armed resistance works.
No one is carrying a fully automatic rifle there…forgot I got you tagged as an anti-gun bootlicker…
Ignore this troll people.
Not that I’m against it, but the guy on the far right of the bottom picture claims his gun is a fully automatic shotgun in a video clip I watched.
Watch it again, he says it’s a semi-automatic shotgun. It looks like a RIA VR-80, or a Turkish clone. Either way, it’s not a full automatic, I’ve got a VR-80 and an 82, neither a full auto.
Thanks for the correction!