Your thinking wasn’t wrong, the problem was that the municipal and provincial police and governments abdicated their duties and abandoned their citizens. The federal government stepped in because the lower levels of government refused to do their duty for weeks. I don’t disagree that Trudeau stepped a foot beyond his jurisdiction, but in that scenario, he was being the only responsible adult who actively cared about the well-being of Canadians.
I’m glad it was done, and there was nothing in the execution that was heavy-handed or otherwise untoward. The people had more than ample warning to disperse, the line moved slowly (giving the people every opportunity to leave of their own volition), force was restrained and minimal. People got arrested because at that point they made the choice to be. It certainly was not the situation we currently see unfolding in the US right now (which, if we are honest, the convoyers would have wanted for their side to perpetuate, if they could).
I think that’s the core here, it’s clearly laid out in the judges decision that the problem wasn’t the government using excessive force, it’s that the EA isn’t really meant to deal with this level of incompetence. Its purpose is to deal with real national security threats, and nothing the convoy did was beyond the scope of the local police, they just chose not to act, and the only mechanisms to hold anyone accountable within the police are operated by the police.
Partisanship within Canadian police departments is a serious issue, and while this ruling should be a wake up call, it won’t be heard.
Unfortunately partisan actors will paint the decision as “Trudeau is a tyrant” in conservative media regardless of the reality.
If the problem is that the police aren’t doing their jobs, then maybe you should fire them and get some cops that will. And then the new cops can solve the problem. That’s pretty obvious, isn’t it?
You don’t get to break the rules because you’re unwilling to hire people to do their jobs.
I think if it had happened anywhere except Ottawa, where the local authorities recognized this had political implications, it would have been smacked down in normal disturbance of the peace actions. But the local twits weren’t about to get involved in what probably had national impact, so they just left it to the feds to clean up. I’m not sure what other avenues the feds had than the one they used, but they should probably come up with something.
You’d have figured they could order the Ottawa police to deal with it and took responsibility before they starting using things like bank account seizures and other pretty heavy handed bullshit that you’d never see in a regular action for a problem like this. That’s where I was a little taken aback during the process. By all means, deal with assholes blowing their horns and shitting on people’s lawns like you would normally. But using devices reserved for terrorism gave these jackasses way too much credibility.
Your thinking wasn’t wrong, the problem was that the municipal and provincial police and governments abdicated their duties and abandoned their citizens. The federal government stepped in because the lower levels of government refused to do their duty for weeks. I don’t disagree that Trudeau stepped a foot beyond his jurisdiction, but in that scenario, he was being the only responsible adult who actively cared about the well-being of Canadians.
I’m glad it was done, and there was nothing in the execution that was heavy-handed or otherwise untoward. The people had more than ample warning to disperse, the line moved slowly (giving the people every opportunity to leave of their own volition), force was restrained and minimal. People got arrested because at that point they made the choice to be. It certainly was not the situation we currently see unfolding in the US right now (which, if we are honest, the convoyers would have wanted for their side to perpetuate, if they could).
I think that’s the core here, it’s clearly laid out in the judges decision that the problem wasn’t the government using excessive force, it’s that the EA isn’t really meant to deal with this level of incompetence. Its purpose is to deal with real national security threats, and nothing the convoy did was beyond the scope of the local police, they just chose not to act, and the only mechanisms to hold anyone accountable within the police are operated by the police.
Partisanship within Canadian police departments is a serious issue, and while this ruling should be a wake up call, it won’t be heard.
Unfortunately partisan actors will paint the decision as “Trudeau is a tyrant” in conservative media regardless of the reality.
Ya, I don’t understand what the alternative is supposed to be. It was declining into lawlessness because police forces refused to do their jobs.
If the problem is that the police aren’t doing their jobs, then maybe you should fire them and get some cops that will. And then the new cops can solve the problem. That’s pretty obvious, isn’t it?
You don’t get to break the rules because you’re unwilling to hire people to do their jobs.
The police are under provincial (and city) control.
the convoy was orchestrarted by tamara lich who was actually just scamming them, probably funded by putin all respects.
Funded by the USA
I think if it had happened anywhere except Ottawa, where the local authorities recognized this had political implications, it would have been smacked down in normal disturbance of the peace actions. But the local twits weren’t about to get involved in what probably had national impact, so they just left it to the feds to clean up. I’m not sure what other avenues the feds had than the one they used, but they should probably come up with something.
You’d have figured they could order the Ottawa police to deal with it and took responsibility before they starting using things like bank account seizures and other pretty heavy handed bullshit that you’d never see in a regular action for a problem like this. That’s where I was a little taken aback during the process. By all means, deal with assholes blowing their horns and shitting on people’s lawns like you would normally. But using devices reserved for terrorism gave these jackasses way too much credibility.