What’s your take on this?

  • alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
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    1 day ago

    You’re gonna be down voted to hell but baby trapping is real, it’s rape, and there should be a recourse against it.

    • MrFinnbean@lemmy.world
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      22 hours ago

      Lol. Baby trapping, while it is bad, its nothing even closely similar to rape.

      Also gentlemen, if there is possibility of rain, bring your raincoats and remember, its not rude to keep your hat on when going inside. Even if the lady asks you to remove it.

      But i agree that lying about birthcontrol should be punishable.

      • alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
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        9 hours ago

        If stealthing is rape (which it is), then so is this. Consent was not given for unprotected sex.

      • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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        18 hours ago

        you’re right. trapping a man into providing for a woman and her child for life is nothing like rape.

        I mean rape is a singular incident that causes lifelong repercussions that takes years if not a lifetime to manage. it can financially ruin you. it can steal away your freedom of choice and destroy opportunities you otherwise could have taken.

        🤔 that sounds awfully similar now that I’m thinking about it.

        just FYI, condoms break.

        • MrFinnbean@lemmy.world
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          17 hours ago

          Do you feel clever using words to compare physical abuse and taking away other person bodys sovereignty to financially harming other?

          Both are bad and cruel things, but they are not compearable.

          Condoms can break and parachutes can fail, but jumping from the plane without parachute is just moronic.

          • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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            17 hours ago

            Not being clever. it’s the same thing.

            you’re just victim blaming because you refuse to acknowledge that forcing anyone to do something through sex should be considered rape.

            • MrFinnbean@lemmy.world
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              16 hours ago

              Did you learn fancy new word to use?

              Im not victim blaming anybody, nor am i saying baby trapping is in any way acceptable, but it definedly is not a rape. And those two crimes are definedly not in any way compareable.

              Your definition would also turn custody disputes in to rape cases.

              • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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                15 hours ago

                that’s quite the amount of confidence for being wrong.

                Many jurisdictions now center the crime on the absence of freely given or affirmative consent and also criminalize sexual acts with persons who cannot legally consent—minors (statutory rape), the intoxicated, the unconscious, or those with certain mental disabilities—so the presence or absence of capacity is often as central as whether force was used.

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                by your definition, having sex while intoxicated would not be rape because consent isn’t required. you allowed this by proposing consent is not a requirement to force a man to impregnate a woman.

                by your definition rape itself doesn’t exist.

                • MrFinnbean@lemmy.world
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                  14 hours ago

                  Haha. You are really a grade A mental gymnist. Bravo. Here have a star *. You deserve it.

                  I havent said single time anything about how i might or might not define a rape. You on the other hand wanted to broaden the definiton to include baby trapping, a completelly different offence that should be its own thing.

    • starlinguk@lemmy.world
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      20 hours ago

      Look, mate, accidents happen. If you don’t want to get a lady pregnant, don’t have sex with the lady.

      • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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        18 hours ago

        what an absolute brain dead response.

        people can lie. “I’m on the pill” “I can’t get pregnant” “I’ll take plan B”

        condoms can break even when a needle hasn’t been poked through.

        a woman can still force herself on a man, they aren’t powerless.