• hector@lemmy.today
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    9 hours ago

    They should abolish all of homeland security really. They only made it after 9/11, on the back of the unconstitutional patriot act. We should start over with something new, the rot is too deep at these agencies.

    We will not though, republicans have a plurality of support on this issue generally even with the dissatisfaction with recent news events.

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    12 hours ago

    Do not change the agency. It cannot be reformed. It MUST be abolished, demand nothing less.

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      Yep, ICE needs to relegated to the American History Hall of Shame,.along with Slavery, The Native American Genocide, the Japanese Internment on WW2, etc., and of course, MAGA.

      And I’m not even kidding. When this is over, we should erect an American History Hall of Shame in Washington DC, and require schools to add curriculum that includes rigorous discussion of our indelible sins, at every level of schooling, from elementary through high school. High Schools should include it on their field trips.

      American students should be taught about the evils that they have a civic responsibility to actively resist. I don’t how the rest of the word could ever trust America again, if we don’t acknowledge our past, and show true remorse and contrition, and pledge to be more vigilant of Democracy in the future.

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        I’d vote to spend money on that. We would finally have a building worthy of sticking Trumps name on.

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      Absolutely, if only to make it really clear to future Americans that this kind of behavior from a government agency is completely unacceptable and leads to real consequences. Besides that, it’s a way easier policy lift than Defund the Police - we could just go back to how we did things in the 90s and bring back Immigration and Naturalization Services, who were more like DMV workers making sure paperwork was in order than the psychopath gun wielding spec ops wannabes that have always made up Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

      Of course, since this is such an obvious good idea, the second worst group of people in America are going into overdrive right now - “Dems Are Begging Their Own to Drop ‘Abolish ICE’ - A new memo circulating on Capitol Hill urges Democratic lawmakers to instead embrace reforming the agency.” (arc)

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    The majority of people who support ICE believe that the people who don’t are traitors and not real Americans who deserve to be cast aside if not punished. They are never going to be swayed by fact, let alone public opinion.

    “The Second American Revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it to be.” These people are at war with us.

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    If we had a democracy, it would matter what people want, but I’m very cynical that it will ever matter again

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    They are proud boy and J6 Nazi fucks now secret police.

    Arrest them all. They are traitors, racists, and fascist.

    The day I can’t vote is the day I kill as many as possible.

    I took an oath to the constitution.

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    12 hours ago

    Doesn’t matter. Enough still support the gestapo.

    ETA: that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t speak out against fascism.