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    convicted rapist.

    Isn’t saying this publicly the thing that got George Stephanopoulos sued? Not that he’s substantially wrong in saying this, but “right” and “wrong” aren’t exactly things that influence Trump’s decision-making.

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        Ruffalo also has the money to go to court and have it out about the definitions of the words adjudicated, alleged, confirmed, convicted etc.

        I know if I was the orange child rapist I wouldn’t want to go to court to discuss those different definitions because at some point I’d have to admit that I was in fact an adjudicated rapist.
        Then again I’m not a mushy brained narcissistic dictator so…

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          Plus of course it’s technically correct. Trump has not been convicted of rape, but he has been convicted of other crimes and he is a rapist. So he is indeed a convicted rapist.

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        Stephanopoulos wasn’t “reporting” when he said that, though; it was during an interview with a guest on the show. I’m not sure that’s a significant difference.

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      And ABC should have fought it in court, and they would have won, but they voluntarily gave up the bribe Trump was demanding.

      Later, Kimmel forced them to grow a spine and fight back, and MAGA backed down. Kimmel knows how to handle bullies.

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        Put whatever qualifiers you want on it. A rapist is a rapist. It’s a factual statement and, therefore, is not slander or libelous.

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            It also doesn’t stop the judge from assigning payment of both parties legal fees to the losing side. A common practice for those kinds of friviolous cases.

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              Getting legal fees paid isn’t always possible, and is very different in various jurisdictions.

              I was once sued in revenge by a supplier I’d dropped. We knew I’d win the case (they were hoping I’d settle), but I was pissed about how much it would cost me, even if I won.

              It turned out that we had to motion for legal fees by a certain date. So my lawyer waited until about an hour before the courthouse closed on that day, and filed the motion without giving them a chance to react reciprocally. So they’d have to pay my legal fees, but I wouldn’t have to pay theirs.

              They lost badly, as predicted, and paid my lawyer for their hubris. No compensation for two years of worry and lost sleep, though.

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              Sure, but it’s less about the money than it is about the act itself, the ultra wealthy can just throw money at lawyers to waste other people’s time, and wear them down, despite whatever outcome they still get what they want really

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                Yep. This is because most people don’t vote in ways that would facilitate enacting legislation to correct that problem.

                Our system of checks and balances only works when we work it. Every time somebody throws up their hands and gives up because of some perceived roadblock, that is what preserves these systemic abuses. To rid ourselves of the abuses requires a public with the desire to actually participate in their own government more often than one day every fourth November.

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        No, he’s a rapist, adjudicated just means a judge determined it. It’s the same as convicted. You don’t call a convicted murder an “adjudicated murderer,” he’s a convicted murderer.

        Trump is a Rapist, plain & simple. He’s also a Traitor, racist, misogynist, white supremacist, ignorant, incompetent, profoundly psychotic, and irredeemably and enthusiastically corrupt.