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can haz instead with anarchy?
https://crazypeople.online/post/13549061
original post.
Why am I cross-posting .ml content?
I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.
Some highlights from the link:
"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167
“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342
.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068
“NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
“If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.
I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda
On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.
Wait so if the Lemmy devs are transphobic… Should there not be a fork at this rate? Also, I’ve heard a lot of shit talked about .ml and seemingly for good reason but what’s the story with all this? How did it get this bad?
The good thing is, this is a federated service, and many instances are defederated from them if you want that. Also, they haven’t added anything to the code that’s bad, and it can be forked if they do.
Meanwhile, piefed, while it seems nice, has issues too. The language they’re using, while it is easy, so allows for easier contribution, isn’t as fast/powerful. They also hardcoded a block list for things like meme communities, and IIRC “NoMoreMuskSpam”, and things like that. This can be removed by admins, but by default they’re blocked. It’s pretty stupid.
Forks for ideological reasons will almost always fail if the issue isn’t with the code.
The lemmy devs bad opinions have not made it into lemmy itself.
Basically the ml owners are the lemmy mods who also own the grad instance.
They are terrible people and it got this far because lemmy was the alternative to reddit that wasn’t filled with racism, transphobes and incels, so people with good intentions stuck and cheered for lemmy to develop while they hosted their own instances with their own rules so at least they didn’t have to tolerate the lemmy devs, hexbear and their trolls too much.By this point there is kbin (or mbin? i keep forgetting) and piefed, there’s no need to support lemmy in anyway anymore, hence why there are more and more instances defederating from ml altough some still federate with them like dbzer0 (but they also federate with hexbear).
The next step should be hosts migrating to piefed or kbin and app devs dropping lemmy support, the first one is already happening in some instances, the later one not yet.I see… Yikes. I know nothing about those other projects and I’ll look them up, but are they forks of Lemmy handled by different people, or just front ends TO Lemmy? Apologies if I’m missing something obvious.
Should there not be a fork at this rate?
Piefed has a list of words they deem naughty built into the system. Fuck that bullshit. I’m an adult, I don’t need some random nanny deciding what is and is not acceptable language for me.
So wait, is this another hub for Lemmy’s servers? How is this different then just accessing Lemmy through a third party app? Is this a totally different platform despite accessing the same servers? I’m a bit confused.
I see, thank you!!
I appreciate your work
Thanks I try my best lol
I think it creates needless duplicate data on every federated server, and fragments community discussion
Not all instances federate with .ml.
I know that, but we do, so this feels like unnecessary duplication
Piefed collapses duplicate posts together. We should ask our glorious Lemmy devs to add the same feature
I personally don’t need discussions on .ml and there seem to be more people who feel that way
I feel like it presents leftists as being as smug and snobbish as reactionaries.
Tbh the design screams “edgy teenager that has never read theory”, it would be quite tempting to ask the person what was the last theory they read
That’s the perfect meme-based response. 😂 Yoink!
It’s literally just a shirt with a hammer and sickle, what the fuck do you mean it screams”never read theory”???
i find the push to read theory quite annoying tbf, it makes me feel like i need to pass a test to care about others. to be a leftist all you need is your own brain and empathy at the basis. yeah it’s good to suppliment that with sources but it’s really not that necessary, just be kind - everything else will come later
Sure but my point is less about the theory and more about the loud and obnoxious symbol on the back, if you’re just a good person and you silently support liberation than I consider that a good thing.
You realize all the authors that wrote the books you’re referring to used this symbol right?
Oh, you’re one of those people. Like the losers who gatekeep hobbies by demanding that women prove they’re good enough at them.
Its not gatekeeping to say that there’s more to revolutionary thought than symbolism, additionally ideology is not the same as a hobby.
“Real revolutionary thought is criticizing symbols on the internet used by actual revolutionaries!”
Oh, I love srsly wrong! I remember listening to this episode back when it came out and it’s great
I’m about 15 minutes in and just heard Nicole’s story. Great stuff! Thanks for sharing!
I feel dumb. I don’t understand what praxis means in this context. Even after reading the definition… someone send help
from my understanding praxis in leftie circles just means– practice, as opposed to theory. so doing stuff aligned with leftist thinking instead of just thinking
