On a guardian podcast they mentioned these hunger strikers literally starving to death were brought up with labor mp’s, and they laughed.
This labor government is fascist, they’ve done more damage in their short time in power than the Tories did their entire time in control. Including cancelling jury trials for up to 3 years in prison changed from 1 which was done in 2020. Illegalizing protests not favored by politicians, bad faith terrorism designations to help actual fascists based on bad faith arguments, accusing people protesting the same thing but not mentioning the proscribed group of supporting terror. Proscribed says israel bad, you said israel bad, you are terrorist reasoning.
They created a masterbaitorbase, to protect the kids they connect every ip and account to id and likeness, in a database silicon valley, and by extension the US government, and other intelligence agencies will also get, to connect everything everyone says, does, looks at, to them and put ai into making half baked assumptions, and social scores to secretly use based on that information in a way people will not be informed of and therefore have no way of challenging.
Age checks and child porn are of course the trojan horses (trojan sheep as the case may be,) and that is perhaps the most pernicious of the changes they have made or let their judiciary make without a fight.
What else I am forgetting something here, this labor government is worse than any UK government ever, cancelling the magna carta in effect. Partial cancellation now, to be expanded later. There is seriously something wrong with our brains at this point, systematic pollution affecting our trust and fear and compliance functions in the brain, in some 1984 type shit, because past generations would never have accepted the magna carta being cancelled, liberty curtailed in the country modern liberty of the enlightenment was born in.
These protestors must be at the physiological limit for hunger striking. I’m not sure how it’s humanly possible unless there is some technicality like doctors giving them a drip with vitamins, etc. I believe at this point one of them has outlived Bobby Sands’ hunger strike duration by 2 or 3 weeks.
Prof Peter Hallward, of Kingston University, one of dozens of academic signatories of the statement, said: “The UK is now perilously close to full descent into authoritarian rule. Ministers won’t even meet with hunger strikers who are now at death’s door. [They] seem perfectly ready to let this country’s most committed and courageous opponents of an ongoing genocide waste away and die.”
What? What is authoritarian about not getting a meeting with a minister?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism
It’s in the first sentence.
Authoritarianism is a political system characterized by the rejection of political plurality
You can start any political party you want to, have any opinions you like. Doesn’t mean you’re entitled to meeting a minister to discuss your opinions.
We need more lions, not martyrs. Do they think them starving themselves to death achieves anything?
The dude is in prison. Got a better way for him to garner attention?
What good is attention?
I’m not certain if you’re being purposefully obtuse here or are just genuinely thick, so I’ll reference Wikipedia again:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluralism_(political_philosophy)
It seems foolish to me to get involved in this kind of debate if you don’t fully understand the terminology, and given your ignorance it seems futile to discuss martyrdom and it’s galvanising effect. Other than to mention that a large portion of the world’s population have been celebrating someone for their martyrdom for hundreds of years. Their birthday was about three weeks ago.
Pluralism thus tries to encourage members of society to accommodate their differences by avoiding extremism
Going on a pointless hunger strike and expecting the govt to bend to your demands sounds pretty extreme.
Is the genocide in Gaza a pointless thing to protest to you?
And changing the law to proscribe groups who’s only crime is criminal damage as terrorists, and then holding members of that group without trail for over a year is totally fine, right? Not extreme and definitely not a breach of human rights? Do you think these people would be starving themselves to death if they were not imprisoned unfairly, and without prospect of release or even a fair trail?
The UN doesn’t seem to think so: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/12/un-experts-urge-uk-protect-lives-and-rights-pro-palestinian-detainees-hunger
Sounds to me that you like a bit of Authoritarianism, despite not knowing what it is. I guess if you like the taste of boot then that’s up to you but I prefer a free and fair society.
It’s a rejection of the magna carta, this and a host of other things this government has done or watched their judiciary do with hidden glee. Locking down the internet, connecting every person to an account in a way lower level government, connected groups, hackers, oligarchs, etc can end up accessing, and otherwise putting everything done or said or looked at through half baked ai threat detection run by the antichrist peter thiel and his ilk, making secret social scores to determine you job prospects, loans, police and court treatment, prices you pay, results your search engines show you.
That is where that is heading. Trying to set up this new technology right up the asses of it’s citizenry. England is the birthplace of modern liberty, the first in many respects to throw off censorship and the controls on the press and speech, and other rights outlined in the magna carta. Now it’s the first to cancel them. Including cancelling jury trials for up to 3 years in prison, from 1 changed in 2020. Before any crime was decided by a jury, a basic right demanded in that magna carta. Now decided by a magistrate chosen by their old boy legal network.
Entering a military base to damage military equipment is a hostile act that has national security issues. They’re not smashing up a McDonald’s at Liverpool St.
The Suffragists got shit done, the Suffragettes didn’t. Maybe learn from history?
discuss your opinions
Are you saying the law on remand is an opinion?
Can’t do the time, don’t do the crime
They haven’t been charged.
You seem to be using this argument like it’s some kind of zinger, rather than a remarkable demonstration of your lack of understanding of the situation.
Win stupid prizes
