Until there is verifiable proof of the existence of god religion should have no place in society. It should not be taught in schools and should not form the basis of any laws. In fact even if you do show up with proof that god exists I still hold the right to ignore god and religion. I claim the right to live without god.

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    • That’s unethical, but even it it wasn’t…
    • There’s no way to satsifactorily define religion in the way I think you’re going for, but even if you could…
    • People would worship their gods anyway, but even if they didn’t…
    • They would worship something else instead (see the ongoing AI cult for live evidence!), but even if they didn’t…
    • It wouldn’t suddenly make everyone empathetic, non-tribal, morally consistent, rational physicalists, but even if it did…
    • Physicalism is for edgy teenagers who haven’t taken the p-zombie question seriously (source: was edgy teenage physicalist)
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      Just want to note that physicalism =/= atheism. There are theistic physicalists (eg Thomas Hobbes) and non-physicalist atheists (eg David Chalmers). Atheism is the belief that there is no God. Physicalism is the belief that reality is made up of entirely physical stuff. The two viewpoints are not necessarily related.

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        True. I’m just reading between the lines here, because of the phrase “until there is verifiable proof”. If it applies to god, then it applies to privacy of conscious experience, in which case… well, we have done pretty horrific things in the past because there was no verifiable proof of someone’s conscious experience, like performing surgery on infants without anesthesia.

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      sorry,what is unethical? proposal is to stop teaching religion in schools (different from teaching about religion) and now allow religious beliefs to be base for laws. all quite reasonable and no unethical bits as far as I can see. Nobody aims to persecute believers or ban faith, just stop making an arbitrarily selected religion the one driving policies. What is unethical is disregarding beliefs of people who’s religion doesn’t line up with religion taught at schools or making inroads i politics.

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        The title of the post is “ban religion”, and the first line is that religion “should have no place in society”