See title. I’m curious if there’s one independent from the US, and if possible also from China.

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    StarLabs, Tuxedo, and Slimbook come to mind. There’s also MNT, but their laptops are quite chunky.

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      Aren’t these all Clevo rebrands? I know at least Tuxedos are. Clevo is a Taiwanese company.

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        Tuxedo (based in Germany) are Clevos. Slimbook (based in Spain) sells Clevo and maybe Tongfang, not sure.

        StarLabs assembles their own laptops in the UK, but I think their parts are still Chinese/Taiwanese because where else are you going to buy laptop parts?

        Personally I would not rule out buying Tuxedo/Slimbook just because the manufacturing is in Asia. Ultimately the components for any laptop will be sourced from there anyway and at least you get support from a European company.

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          Ah. If you can’t get “perfect”, always try for “better” and hope to drive evolution.

          (But see also USA election failure 2024)

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    Lots of laptops are actually made by Clevo - they are Taiwanese at least. ASUS and MSI are also Taiwanese.

    Some manufacturers like CyberPowerPC are at least assembled in Europe - same with Chillblast. Likely a Clevo or Tongfang (Chinese) laptop underneath though.

    Otherwise Nokia in Finland, Medion, SHIFT, Tuxedo, or Wortmann all from Germany spring to mind.

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      I will never forgive ASUS for the 2005-2008 restructuring. They used to make great computers. Then came the fucking MBAs and ruined the brand.

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        I’m too young to know what ASUS was like before my first computer I built in 2013. I will say that I have always had quality from them. I think one time I had something DOA and they replaced it with expedited shipping. I’ve always bought ASUS where I could and when I haven’t I went elsewhere and got let down. MSI and Acer monitors broke within two years for instance.