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    Ah Billy Corgan. He is so cringe.

    I LOVED Smashing Pumpkins. They were my favorite band (pre-2000 albums), but saying that with the way Corgan acts makes me embarrassed.

    Still. “Geek USA” (from Siamese Dream) is one of the best songs of all time. Jimmy Chamberlain’s drumming is severely underrated. He deserves much more recognition than he gets.

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    I mean. I think he’s crazy, but for Trump to reach out to a random celebrity that he knows the name of and just start talking about state secrets is completely in line with things that already happened.

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      The two of them were both big into wrestling around the same time. Probably already buddies or something

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      Totally plausible trump saw a photo of him, like the one here, and saw his pale skin, shaved head, and just assumed he was a fellow fascist, and called him up to recruit him, and just started blabbing.

      Kinda seems more plausible that coorgan just making it up and saying it for what… clout?

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        Kinda seems more plausible that coorgan just making it up and saying it for what… clout?

        I mean that is what would make sense. It’s just that this is exactly the kind of stuff the president does

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    I’ll always love the early albums, but I knew Billy lost the plot the first time he talked about and insisted that different paint colors on the same guitar make it sound different (noticeably different). He hasn’t been reality-based in many years.

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    This dude is a raging narcissist of the covert or vulnerable type I’m not sure.

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    Corgan then compared the situation to something he’s dealt with before. “It’s similar to when I talked about experiencing a shape shifter on Howard Stern,” he explained. “It became this thing where I was hunted in airports. ‘Please tell me the shapeshifter story!’”

    That seems pretty close to the benign end of the scale of potential responses to claims of experiencing a shape-shifter.

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      Mayonaise is one of the best tracks in rock, IMHO. Billy is obviously quite talented, but seemingly problematic as a person.

      If you tune that kind of thing out, I get it. It’s just going to ruin the music.

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        Mayonnaise is fantastic, but for me, the song right before Mayo is better. Geek USA is my favorite song of all time.

        But, honestly, that whole album pretty damn good. You really can’t go wrong.

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      Really? They had like 3 good albums 30 years ago. Anything remotely recent has been the worst dogshit I’ve attempted to listen to.

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        I agree with this completely. But for me, those 3 albums are better than almost everything else.

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            Which 3 SP albums do I like? Gish, Siamese Dreams, and Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness.

            Siamese Dream is my favorite of the 3 and “Geek USA” is probably my favorite song of all time.

            The 4th album Adore has a couple good songs but that’s when their style started to change and they started breaking up. Chamberlain left prior to this album for personal reasons then Wretzky and Iha left bc Corgan is a dick.

            Chamberlain and Iha have come back recently, I think but Wretzky HATES Corgan and will never work with him again.

            So why do I like those albums so much? Mainly Jimmy Chamberlain. He doesn’t get enough credit for his talent. He’s the reason I fell in love with those albums to begin with.

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              Those are my three as well. I think Siamese Dream is probably my favorite too. I think I’d go with Today as my favorite song. Interesting about the band drama… I’ve never known anything about them other than their music and that Corgan is a crazy infowarrior type.

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                Iha and Wretzky didn’t get along with Corgan.

                Apparently, Corgan wouldn’t let them play their own parts when recording the album. He did all guitar and bass parts himself.

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          Fair enough. I probably came off as an asshole in my comment, I was just genuinely surprised someone could keep them as a favorite band after the last few albums they released. They were just awful.

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            As you get older, the present begins to leave less and less of an impression… Making the past more vivid in your mind (ie the good old days). So OP is probably 40+…

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      Somehow pretty much every artists I like is a piece of shit. Just gotta separate art from artist and not give a fuck about who they are as a person.

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          I don’t really contribute any money to any artists, and I pirate albums of the shitty ones. Maybe concerts but I won’t go to like a Kanye concert for this exact reason.

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          I don’t think anyone really was since the '90s, but I recall looking him up again when he made an appearance in one of the Guitar Hero titles and discovering that he was already deep into wacko land.

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            I have a personal story about his doing some charity work a long time ago, and im going to hold on to that one.

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                Okay, I think I can make this story anonymous enough.

                Again, this was a very long time ago, some time in the mid to late 90s. A family member of mine (we’ll call him Joe) worked in a charity organization. The major thing that org did to raise money was put on a charity auction once a year. This auction was a big fucking deal. There was crazy amounts of money in the audience, and they were bidding on signed items from famous musicians. Tens of thousands of dollars per item was not at all out of the ordinary. (There was also a silent auction with the “cheaper” stuff; I have a stuffed beaver signed by Primus, my wife has a Duran Duran set list from some show, that kind of thing.) One of Joe’s responsibilites was working his contacts in order to get really famous people to sign things for charity.

                So the night before the auction one year, Joe is walking down the street late at night in this major city, talking on his phone to someone, getting final details sorted out. All of a sudden, there’s Billy Corgan walking down the same street. Joe stops and says to him real quick like: “Hey, Billy - I’m organizing this charity auction tomorrow night, would you sign something for me?”

                Billy says sure, and Joe pops into a conveniently close music store and buys a Smashing Pumpkins poster. Billy signs it, then asks if he can come to the auction, and if there’s anything else he can do to help.

                Billy shows up to the auction the next night, and they make him a runway model - one of the people, usually pretty women, who walk out with the items and show them off to the audience up and down the stage while the auctioneer is calling. My then girlfriend, now wife, was also one of the runway models that year, so she got to spend the whole evening hanging out with Billy Corgan, who I am told was a complete gentleman and super nice, if a bit on the quiet side.

                I was working the booth on the floor where the sold items were kept until the buyers picked them up, so I was watching the auction go on. There’s my wife and Billy Corgan carrying this giant framed guitar out together, smiling and walking up and down, Billy in his kind of regular street clothes, and just doing the work all night long, without making it about himself in the slightest.

                That’s the Billy Corgan that I know.