Nina spitting truths as always. She’s on fire recently, so follow her if you’re not doing so already.

To be clear; everyone working in my government, particularly after today, is a Nazi, or someone who works for Nazis. Do you know what we call people who worked for the Nazis, in the Nazi government? Yes, that is correct, Nazis.

So Machado is certainly not gonna feel lonely on the list of people on my TV who are definitely Nazis.

Oh, was that too harsh? Are you feeling bad for the good career civil servants, working for the literal fucking Nazis, who I have just impuned? Cool, let’s refer back to that part where I said I was surrounded by people who openly recognize that this is fascism, and ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY refuse to accept what that actually means.

We call people, who worked for the Nazi Party, in the Nazi government, Nazis. Nobody says “the Nazi government and the career civil servants who hated them but stayed.”

“They’ll just find someone else.”

Then let them. “I took the job at the concentration camp because I was sure Hitler would find someone else” was not a good defense in court last time, and it won’t be this time either.

    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
      41·
      6 days ago

      Now you’re just being intellectually dishonest.

      No, I’m not on the list. Hitler’s janitor wasn’t on the list. Guillotining Hitler’s janitor wouldn’t have stopped the Holocaust. Hitler’s janitors refusing to go to work would have. Hitler’s janitors guillotining Hitler would have. Guillotining me and the rest of the consumer class won’t solve the problems we created.

      Take some personal responsibility.

      • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
        13·
        6 days ago

        I am indeed more responsible

        So you’re more responsible?

        Now you’re just being intellectually dishonest.

        So you were lying.

        Guillotining me and the rest of the consumer class won’t solve the problems we created.

        So you were lying badly.

        Take some personal responsibility.

        So words don’t mean things.

        • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
          41·
          6 days ago

          So you’re more responsible?

          Yep! “I” being the entire consumer class that created all of the billionaires. I feel I was pretty clear about that. You were well aware of that when you suggested that “I” should face the guillotine. That was your dishonesty.

          Hitler had no power without the support of the German people. “But he was a dictator!” Dictators have no power without the support of the people. When the people laugh at him and call him an idiot, he’s not a dictator. He’s just some random dickhead yelling at the clouds. He was only a dictator because people followed his dictates.

          Your argument was that Hitler’s janitor wasn’t responsible for the holocaust; that his Nazi role was trivial. The sum totality of all those “trivial” Nazi roles is what gave us the holocaust.

          • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
            14·
            6 days ago

            It’s still you saying consumers should face the guillotine, ahead of billionaires and dictators.

            Quite frankly what the fuck.

            • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
              31·
              6 days ago

              You brought the guillotine into it, not I. I said nothing of the sort. You conflated “responsibility” with “deserving of the guillotine”. I did not. I did not speak of punishment at all.

              My point was and is that Hitler and Trump can’t do a thing without the support of the populace. Hitler didn’t build an oven. He never stacked a brick. He never set a rivet in a V2 missile. He never scrubbed a toilet for anyone who did. Each of these individual tasks was trivial; the sum total of all those trivialities was the Holocaust.

              Do not let yourself believe that your own trivial contribution to fascism is meaningless. Take personal responsibility for your actions. “I was just trying to get by” is condemnation, not absolution.