The regulations go further by targeting those who provide space for such activity.
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This would make far more sense if they didn’t still allow smoking.
Like. What the actual fuck.
You allow the deadly deadly thing and come down hard on the safer alternative.
Anyway I was in Vietnam recently and vaping was still illegal when I was there but I had no issues vaping anywhere.
This can only be because of tobacco industry lobbying.
One more country to list of countries I won’t visit for work or holidays.
Oh dear, I guess we’ll have to deal without one more stinky cracker.
Jesus that’s messed up. Not only are vapes harmless as far as we know but outright bans and such harsh penalties for what should be none of the government’s business. Vietnam really fell down the paternalistic hole eh.
Edit: wow yall downvoters really agree with them? ban something like that? Sugar taxes too I bet? What next, red meat?
I don’t watch porn and I don’t like it, I don’t like gooners and I think overall it’s harmful to society for vague, vibes-based reasons not yet firmly established by any evidence whatsoever, just like you all with vaping, so what, I should want to ban that too?
No, that would be fucking crazy.
Unironically you all could use some nicotine to think a bit more clearly. This is authoritarian overreach pure and simple, whatever side of the political spectrum you’re on that made you think this is anything remotely ok, it’s the wrong one.
I don’t know about them being harmless, but they’re way less harmful than cigarettes.
It’s a perfect is the enemy of good kind of thing. Less people are smoking cigarettes, which is good. But they are using vapes so it isn’t perfect. So let’s make some laws to make things perfect!
Either the law isn’t followed and people still vape, or it is “successful” and people go back to smoking cigarettes. People are going to do things that are bad for them. Better to have them do the lesser of two evils.
I was with you until your brick-stupid take on porn.
Isn’t that Kyle Rottenhouse? This reads like you’re on Rittenhouse’s side with an anti vaping on babies view.
So not only is your meme dumb and using a picture of a violent far right idiot as the supposed ‘correct’ side of this strawman, you are also a shitty parent for apparently not moving your own baby out of someone’s vape cloud and instead starting a fight with a loser blowing vape clouds on a baby.
It’s a meme ya dunce. I think it’s meant to be edgy. And I don’t think it’s glorifying vaping, it looks like typical /r/drugscieclejerk
Bro I’m not anti vape and I didn’t think the meme was glorifying vaping either.
I was calling the maker/user of the meme an idiot for all the shit you think you just explained to me. Like you literally just paraphrased my comment and called me the idiot for ‘not getting it’.
vapes harmless
They’re much less harmful than cigarettes. But we don’t know long-term stuff, especially with all the different product blends that exist. But I agree, it should be legal to vape where it’s legal to smoke.
Just because we don’t know the long term stuff doesn’t mean there is harmful long term stuff.
Doesn’t mean there isn’t either.
That’s the thing about not knowing.
The evidence on the short and near term stuff does suggest it’s orders of msg tide safer than smoking though.
Which doesn’t mean harmless.
Yeah your statement doesn’t contradict mine, as far as we know they are harmless. But we also know really well too, these things have been studied up and down since the 90s and still nothing was really found.
The *blends" thing idk about, the only ingredients out there that go into vape juice are VG, PG, nicotine and flavouring, there aren’t any legal variations on that, this is usually pretty well regulated in the first world.
It is going to be very funny when all the morons who downvoted me die slaving away for the man having missed out on a lifetime of nicotine, wondering what could have been, what they could have achieved with just a bit of sweet stimulant juice, and imma die all the same due to some unrelated causes having lived a full life
“As far as we know they are harmless”
Doctors in old timey days giving people cocaine for their babies toothache.
They didn’t exist in the 90s.
PG has been pumped through hospitals hvac since the 50s because of its antibacterial abilities. Basically they do it to help curb MSRA infections. We very well know what PG does to us, vaping isn’t much different.
Not since the 50s, in the 50s. And at a much lower concentration than what vaping is.
I’ve been vaping for about 15 years. Don’t get me wrong, vaping is far safer than inhaling tobacco smoke or putting a wad of dip in your mouth. That doesn’t make it safe, and I’m unaware of any real studies on the long-term effects of vaping. I am aware of some very badly performed lab studies that were clearly designed to produce results showing how awful it is by operating vape devices in ways that no person ever would or even could. Yes, PG has a mild antiseptic effect. Yes, the flavorings used are “generally regarded as safe” (GRAS) … for eating.
What I know anecdotally from my own experience:
- Over time, vaping in a closed area leaves a sticky residue on everything. I’m sure my lungs are doing work to eliminate that residue that they wouldn’t have to do otherwise, and I don’t know the health effects of that.
- The inside of my mouth is constantly dry and feels kind of gross. I’m sure my breath isn’t great.
- My teeth are badly stained. I avoid dark juices, as those seem to do it much worse.
All that said, I’m still glad I switched from cigarettes.
Interesting, the study I read, which was like 10 years ago now, when I was vaping, showed that it was still a common thing in hospitals to help curb mrsa infections, and why the air in a hospital usually has a weird feel/taste to it.
That residue is basically from VG/PG buildup with whatever flavor you’re using. I’d be curious if it happened without any flavoring at all. I suspect it wouldn’t build up at all.
Not finding that study myself here, but I’m happy to stand corrected on that.
What I did find was this
Most critically, vaporised PG efficiently abolishes influenza A virus and SARS‐CoV‐2 infectivity within airborne droplets, potently preventing infection at levels well below those tolerated by mammals. We present PG vapour as a first‐in‐class non‐toxic airborne virucide that can prevent transmission of existing and emergent viral pathogens, with clear and immediate implications for public health.
Which might explain why everyone in my family (in the house and extended) has had COVID (often more than once) and I never have.
2003 for what we now know as vapes. Close enough tbqh. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette
