Almost half the average electricity standing charge of approx. £196 per year (or £320 if they also have a gas supply which a lot of people in the country do). Or about 1.5% of yearly rent assuming small 1-bed in low demand area. Or around as much as 3/4 of elderly homeowners who own the housing and power they get for free via the WFP from our taxes.

I’m sorry, good god our energy is a mess.

This has happened to me before as well, there’s so many reasons a site or anything on your end or in-between could be down or have issues, that’s why mirrors work so well for resiliency! Glad you’re back up to speed now.

Deb-src is the source code repository iirc. Unless you regularly download and read source code, you do not need it.

I get a 404 on those URLs too. Try a mirror? Look up Debian mirrors and try one of those

Yeah, you’re right, I’m an it scmuck in cyber now but it doesn’t mean I failed at computers, I don’t want a more stressful job, I don’t want to program for a living, I just enjoy learning computer science.

As for uni yeah now it’s just extra years of high school, up to an MSc is mandatory if you want to succeed, and by succeed I mean have a job, and even then your chances are very slim.

Haha, god bless, that’s the spirit!

I used to love computers… still do, but good god do I hate tech companies and all this shit it’s spawned. My last remaining line of defense mentally is that at work we have shifted to a mostly Windows environment, and my interests lie with the Unix side of things.

You got a loicence for that thought? And here I thought we were doing a brave new world type thing.

Called it. All the corpos will strike deals, including those who own platforms to which artoids post their art, and there is zilch that the artoids can do except wine about technology rather than recognize their true enemy.

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Most people are not comfortable enough to sit with themselves and decide who they are as a person and figure out their real internal motivations because the necessity of work has made it fairly easy to avoid doing that difficult work.

Source? Proof? Or you just throwing that out there as if it means anything?

That also sounds incredibly condescending. I prefer to assume better of my fellow human beings, I see no reason they are not capable of this if I am, because I don’t think myself as better than “most people”.

It isn’t a pleasant opportunity, but the experience of being left rudderless, of having to sort things out on your own without a script or a clear path forward is one that many people don’t get,

Oh, do people not choose what to do with their life for work as young as 14 in America or…? Because by then here in the UK I had to pick my subjects for my GCSEs that i’d study for two years, then make sure I can nail the exams so I am eligible to go for the A-Level subjects I want to pursue for the 2 years of school after that, and make sure that I nail those so I can go to uni and get the degree I need to pursue the career I want for the next 20-30 years while also keeping in mind that I must be good enough at it all to actually compete and thrive.

As a working class person who had no parental backing and an immigrant who had to find a way to stay in the country for my own safety, I had to make the right decisions when confronted by an extremely brutal reality at an age when my immediate concerns were heated fandom debates about mass effect 3’s endings.

As far as I’m aware both here and there at 16 someone could literally choose to pursue military service too.

So literally all of us are forced to make extremely comitting choices that impact the rest of our life and figure these things out.

There are enough people, particularly in America, that have been just comfortable enough to never have to really think about back up plans or contingencies for what to do with their life in the absence of its current structure.

That might have been true 80 years ago, but that’s not how these things work in such a dynamic job market either.

And there are many reasons why people may not have the wherewithal to find meaning in their lives. Some people are so focused on survival that meaning hasn’t even occurred to them. Others are depressed or traumatized or otherwise miserable and it’s hard to find meaning in blinding pain. Some people have been spoon fed meaning by way of work since the day they were born and literally do not know any other way to exist. Personally, I was stuck in a blend of these things when I was still working in tech and it was in the throes of abject despair that I finally forced myself to make the changes required to pursue my life’s meaning through work as a physician. Getting into and through medical school has been a brutal process and it has been immensely painful to try to imagine alternatives after the amount of work I’ve put in to pursue this goal. I’m now within 6 months of graduating and will be starting residency next summer, but it won’t be in the specialty that I had hoped (and that I had already staked a piece of my identity to). I’ve suffered more hardship than many, but I have also been more comfortable than plenty of other people, but I would find a great deal of turmoil and misery trying to restructure my life without being able to work as a physician (and that’s not even getting into the financial nightmare of my student loan situation.)

None of these things have anything to do with wage labour specifically. You mention financial nightmares and not being able to be a physician, the former is a product of capitalism, not wage labour, the latter is not relevant as no one is actually stopping you from being a physician in a post-work world, you would be free to be a healer, in fact - more free to be a healer because you would not be stuck in a tech job, or any kind of job for that matter.

If society really collapsed, and for some reason the post-society world didn’t leave space for me to be a physician or a healer of some kind

Again, I would sure hope in a post-wage-labour utopia that doctors exist. Just because you would not be in wage-labour “work” doesn’t mean you can’t do something. The vast majority of what people do and even more of what people want to do or like to do isn’t and actually can’t be wage labour either, whether it’s art or scientific research etc and many professional like doctors and teachers and janitors that actually do something necessary for society are wildly underpaid by said society because they exist at odds with the capitalist wage labour structure, not because of it, and they existed before and will exist long after as professions.

Losing everything you’ve structured your life on is a form of grief and not everyone is equipped to handle that grief gracefully and effectively while being able to carry on with their lives.

Of course, but that isn’t what actually would happen so the entire premise is faulty.

Dare I say… based? Broken clock right twice a day etc etc. Or maybe in France sex is apolitical.

Almost all foods are processed and most are some degree of premade. You better hope so too, because “processing” gets rid of like the insanely high risk of contamination that food has in nature. Eating meat of a deer carrying some virus or bacteria or simply being poisoned by fungi affecting some plant was how non-agricultural humans died a lot, and it’s only once we started processing everything, like e.g. ultra heat-treated & pasteurized milk that food quality improved.

Woaah now we’re talking opportunities? I never mentioned that at all.

I think it’s fairly obvious that in a world where we would no longer have to do work and there wasn’t a need to work to survive ala capitalism or hunter-gathering that people would have literally unlimited opportunities and unlimited time, and that’s what this conversation was originally about.

When you claimed “not everyone is a leader” in that context you are referring to innate ability only, not opportunities. There is an implied “all things being equal” in there.

You and I obviously agree on what you wrote in regards to equity etc, these are basic humanist notions, but they are also irrelevant in this discussion.

All things being equal, if a person could not find meaning in their life to move towards I would judge them for it because I was able to, and if I see myself as not innately better than others, then there is no reason that innately others shouldn’t be able to accomplish to a similar level that I had done.

There are billions of people alive today that don’t have the mental framework to cope with this kind of change because our education systems are abysmally incapable of teaching people how to think critically, structurally, and existentially.

So if I can, what does that mean?

Because I’d prefer to assume, out of empathy, that it means that others are capable of it as well. I am nothing special at all, if I can do it, so can others.

If anything that’s the humble, empathetic assumption. I did not need to be taught, I went out of my way to learn these things. So it must be that others are capable of that too, right?

Because the alternative would be to assume less of others than of myself, which is actually the ugly, unempathetic assumption, which I’d prefer not to make.

My worldview rests on judging myself by the same standard I judge others, extending a theoretical stranger the same benefit of the doubt I’d extend myself. That - to me - is empathy.

Am I missing something? Is there a third way? Because I’d love to hear it.

Yes

Discovered hard/aggro phonk like Ghostface Playah, TXN4, and KSLV Noh.

No idea wtf is with the gym association and images of Guts from Berserk everywhere but the music is great ngl.

Reminds me of IDX(?) or like that more modern adjacent microgenre that Femtanyl and ZØMB occupy.

I was also having a brain fart earlier after my gf showed me this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Esp6ikwDc because I just assumed that Hungarian fascists would use Franz Liszt because he’s like the Hungarian composer, but I could’ve sworn that song is by Berlioz.

Indeed it was, and Berlioz was indeed a romanticist… a French romanticist though. He died in Paris too.

As far as I’m aware (which isnt very far at all), he was not living in or ever active in Hungary at any point. Liszt was also alive and active around basically the exact same time in the early to mid 1800s, so it wasn’t motivated by revanchism/reactionary idolisation of a particular period, and Liszt was also a romanticist, but y’know, actually a Hungarian one.

The only way it makes sense is because that part of Damnation of Faust by Berlioz is called “Hungarian March” so I guess they just went with that? Honestly nationalists do be shallow lol 😂

Might as well have gone with Hungarian Dances by Brahms or something. I guess that one is too nice sounding, and they wanted a “are we the baddies moment?” with that villainous theme, kind of embarrassing to lose a war after that too lol at least the Brits had a bit of levity to their colonel bogey song, forever immortalised in my mind as victoria 3 final boss music.

We always have, I’ve never seen a meme template used incorrectly without lots of comments calling it out for being wrong, even when it was actually funny.

See idgaf about how a template is used as long as it’s funny. If it’s used incorrectly but is funny it’s a ‘spin’ or variant or remix or even a ‘subversion’ if the joke is about the template itself (meta commentary).

The former shows knowledge of the template and intent.

But if it is unfunny and it’s used incorrectly then oftentimes it is so because it’s used incorrectly.

The latter shows a lack of knowledge of the template and lack of intention.

This all also applies to art

Thats specious reasoning, I see no evidence anyone is a “leader” any more than anyone else, so I think you should be your own leader. Self-governance in your humanity and your life is a joy to be celebrated.

If my needs were actually covered by the surplus of productivity brought about by automation instead of going to some rich asshole so he can buy another private jet to do ketamine on or lobby for racism or whatever it is they do anymore, I’d be very happy with it all.

structure (“I know where to be at 9”)

That’s stupid, you can create your own structure freely if you need it so much, but you also just don’t need it. Needing a paternalistic structure is intellectual laziness.

community (office friendships, shared memes, gossip),

But not a consensual one. It is more like prison inmates, even if you like them. You should find your own community.

Identity (“I’m a nurse / teacher / carpenter,” for the lucky ones),

That’s skill and passion though, not wage labour. That’s why some jobs mean something and others do not.

My job doesn’t even remotely touch on my identity even though it’s my profession and what I studied for because while I love studying complex computer systems for flaws, I don’t actually give a shit about preventing some dysfunctional private equity portfolio fodder company’s bottom line from dropping.

•a script (“I know what next year roughly looks like”).

More intellectual laziness. You can write your own script if you need one or just do what you actually want. Obviously that requires asking the hard question of what you actually want, but this shouldn’t be hard.

Take that away and you don’t get instant utopia. You get a psychic freefall.

I’m no psychic but this sure feels like projection, and not the astral kind.

Imagine millions of people waking up one day structurally unnecessary to the economy, with no replacement narrative in place. Not “You’re free now,” but “The system doesn’t know what to do with you, please manage your own despair.”

Thats great as long as the economy is restructured such that I no longer have obligations to it and benefit from productivity increases.

That’s not liberation. That’s cruelty on a scale our nervous systems are not built for.

That’s stupid, sweeping statements about what our nervous systems are and are not built for have no basis in reality, even the basic idea of “we were meant to x” based in the pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology that’s parroted wildly by various bad vibe cottagecore enthusiasts and other conservative past romanticizers doesn’t make hold any more water than me saying that my nervous system was actually meant to post comments on Lemmy.

We weren’t meant to do anything, no one exists and nothing happens for any particular reason, we are a chaotic yet structured event on the way from a big bang in a race towards the thermodynamic equilibrium and ultimately the heat death of the universe.

This is a good thing, actually, because it means that you have the freedom to find your own purpose outside of merely wage labour or some other manufactured divine intent.

Go explore, go learn something or make something, once capitalism no longer demands of us the wageslavery we provide, we will be truly free to be ourselves, and I look forward to that day.

Hopefully the age of jobs will end as it should.

Americans have a weird idea that fast food isn’t just mostly the same ingredients you see in a store + sugar and preservatives and that by cooking you somehow elevate the ingredients to a higher quality.