You left an edit that basically blamed people for their mental problems, in service of defending the most dangerously addictive drug maybe to ever exist.
I’m not blaming anyone.
I’m just saying we should focus more on mental health problems, than punishing drug crimes - because drugs aren’t the problem, but how we as a society handle people with problems
I thought, I made that clear enough with the “trying to function” part
There is nothing about acknowledging the dangers of highly addictive substances which says we should punish their users. You definitely shifted blame off the substance itself. Which is quite odd to me, unless your goal is to encourage people to use those drugs.
I never retracted anything, I just made myself clear (again), that the problem is a social one and you can’t just blame stuff like drugs
I just can’t stand the argument, that drugs are the whole problem - because it leads to even more social problems and can be used as an excuse for war by a government
I didn’t want to get personal, but you told me I’m lying, while I just said what my experience was - and if at least 2 dozens others I know.
There are also people who had problems with opiates, speed, coke, alcohol etc
But all of those tried to keep their social role up with the help of substances. And I personally struggled sometimes as well, as it’s an easy relief (for some honeymoon phase). But I couldn’t stand being dependant on something and so never really developed that exact problem.
I was always aware, that I’m trying to cope with something and that is my actual problem.
Well hopefully mods do their job and remove your comments. I’m done here with the pretending we’re having a nuanced conversation about societal problems which you didn’t bring up at all until you had your back against a wall.
“it’s true that a lot of people can handle heroin” is the only message you have successfully sent. All the rest of that won’t be read, and even if it is, it’s still not as insightful as you seem to think.
Some kid might destroy their life because of what you wrote. You’re not only unconcerned with that, you think you’ve somehow been helpful. 🤮
You left an edit that basically blamed people for their mental problems, in service of defending the most dangerously addictive drug maybe to ever exist.
That was not what I meant to do
I’m not blaming anyone.
I’m just saying we should focus more on mental health problems, than punishing drug crimes - because drugs aren’t the problem, but how we as a society handle people with problems
I thought, I made that clear enough with the “trying to function” part
There is nothing about acknowledging the dangers of highly addictive substances which says we should punish their users. You definitely shifted blame off the substance itself. Which is quite odd to me, unless your goal is to encourage people to use those drugs.
And let’s maybe try again:
I think, we’re having a social problem.
Just like guns can’t be freely distributed in our current society, drugs shouldn’t be as well.
But it’s a social problem. A gun doesn’t kill someone, a drug doesn’t forcefully inject itself into you.
They are things, they can’t be blamed.
We need to work on the social problems, that give us gun violence and drug problems.
But we should start by taking responsibility.
Drug land isn’t Disney land, where nothing can hurt you.
Edit: that’s why I think education is so important, and everywhere we’re cutting it down and blame stuff instead
So then you retract your statements that make it seem like opiates are something one can safely experiment with. Good.
I never retracted anything, I just made myself clear (again), that the problem is a social one and you can’t just blame stuff like drugs
I just can’t stand the argument, that drugs are the whole problem - because it leads to even more social problems and can be used as an excuse for war by a government
I didn’t want to get personal, but you told me I’m lying, while I just said what my experience was - and if at least 2 dozens others I know.
There are also people who had problems with opiates, speed, coke, alcohol etc
But all of those tried to keep their social role up with the help of substances. And I personally struggled sometimes as well, as it’s an easy relief (for some honeymoon phase). But I couldn’t stand being dependant on something and so never really developed that exact problem.
I was always aware, that I’m trying to cope with something and that is my actual problem.
That was my sole critic
Well hopefully mods do their job and remove your comments. I’m done here with the pretending we’re having a nuanced conversation about societal problems which you didn’t bring up at all until you had your back against a wall.
Yeah, because I’m thinking, that the root problem should be the focus instead of blaming a symptom…
“it’s true that a lot of people can handle heroin” is the only message you have successfully sent. All the rest of that won’t be read, and even if it is, it’s still not as insightful as you seem to think.
Some kid might destroy their life because of what you wrote. You’re not only unconcerned with that, you think you’ve somehow been helpful. 🤮
Of course, because a thing that can’t act on its own is a very weird thing to blame.
People have some might over their decisions - at least in my understanding of a free will.
I can’t blame something. I can blame a doctor who didn’t tell me everything or a dealer lying to me, but I can’t blame a substance