The only thing the guy said was wrong was that it’s reverse sexism. If he said “so your main concern is improving things for women? That’s not egalitarian unless you believe women have it much worse than men today.” It’s someone misinformed being told he’s an enemy. Ragebait
Not really. There’s many areas that women do have it better. Sociologist have started to label it even. They’re called the lost boys. A generation of boys who for one reason or another have failed to move onto post secondary education. Education in our society is something that increases our chances of success in life. But right now post education is filled with women. They believe the push to get women in schools was successful but nobody put the same effort into the boys. STEM careers and other post secondary streams were advertised to women and the boys were forgotten. Can’t tell me that those boys are not now feeling that pressure with having reduced social and capital mobility as a whole. It’s just one example of how women do not have it “much worse” today then men.
So then he is misinformed, which many people are. I don’t put someone into the “enemy” box for being misinformed or stubborn, that’s pretty much the default state of most humans.
When you combine ignorance with combativeness you are a roadblock that needs to go.
If he was simply uninformed and sough to learn, he wouldn’t trying to make himself to be a victim to ‘win’ an argument in his head. This is reactionary behaviour, and reactionaries are the enemy.
“being combative” is not a constant character trait, but rather a response behavior.
And everyone can be wrong even in their strongest opinions, including yourself. Would you prefer to be the “roadblock that needs to go” when such occurs, or you’d rather have a chance to correct your opinion?
Unlike the popular belief, people can and do change. Your words here haracterize you just as combative on the matter. What makes you better than any other human being? They too believe their ideas to be the correct ones.
Treating anyone, however wrong in their ways, as nothing more than an obstacle that needs to be removed, you only make yet another person hostile towards you and your ideas, making everything only worse.
I just don’t know what to say because I was that person before. A lot of people men especially are extremely pigheaded and argumentative, and you can be justifiably upset at them. If your goal is to help women and further feminism though, even a “correct” gotcha like this makes people less receptive to feminism. It’s just making enemies out of people who might be wrong, stubborn, and combative, which unfortunately is basically everyone at some point in their life.
What makes you think me deleting my post meant anything ??
I want to save server space, but hey thanks for proving how much of a raging rage-baiter you are.
Correction: you are a misandrist, not a rage-baiter
Ragebait art by someone who wants to seek rage from both sides. Mastered art.
‘Both sides’? No, I assure you only one side would rage over this and if you felt rage, you should work on that.
The only thing the guy said was wrong was that it’s reverse sexism. If he said “so your main concern is improving things for women? That’s not egalitarian unless you believe women have it much worse than men today.” It’s someone misinformed being told he’s an enemy. Ragebait
Women do have it much worse than men today. And I say this as a man, we hold so much privilege compared to any one else it’s not funny.
Not really. There’s many areas that women do have it better. Sociologist have started to label it even. They’re called the lost boys. A generation of boys who for one reason or another have failed to move onto post secondary education. Education in our society is something that increases our chances of success in life. But right now post education is filled with women. They believe the push to get women in schools was successful but nobody put the same effort into the boys. STEM careers and other post secondary streams were advertised to women and the boys were forgotten. Can’t tell me that those boys are not now feeling that pressure with having reduced social and capital mobility as a whole. It’s just one example of how women do not have it “much worse” today then men.
Oh no, be careful, you’re saying unpopular things!
What an incredibly valuable contribution.
Value is what I’m all about.
Funny way of showing that your values are value. I suppose I expected more value from a valued value.
So then he is misinformed, which many people are. I don’t put someone into the “enemy” box for being misinformed or stubborn, that’s pretty much the default state of most humans.
When you combine ignorance with combativeness you are a roadblock that needs to go.
If he was simply uninformed and sough to learn, he wouldn’t trying to make himself to be a victim to ‘win’ an argument in his head. This is reactionary behaviour, and reactionaries are the enemy.
“being combative” is not a constant character trait, but rather a response behavior.
And everyone can be wrong even in their strongest opinions, including yourself. Would you prefer to be the “roadblock that needs to go” when such occurs, or you’d rather have a chance to correct your opinion?
Unlike the popular belief, people can and do change. Your words here haracterize you just as combative on the matter. What makes you better than any other human being? They too believe their ideas to be the correct ones.
Treating anyone, however wrong in their ways, as nothing more than an obstacle that needs to be removed, you only make yet another person hostile towards you and your ideas, making everything only worse.
What makes me better than a misogynist and I should be nice to them too?
That’s your argument?
I just don’t know what to say because I was that person before. A lot of people men especially are extremely pigheaded and argumentative, and you can be justifiably upset at them. If your goal is to help women and further feminism though, even a “correct” gotcha like this makes people less receptive to feminism. It’s just making enemies out of people who might be wrong, stubborn, and combative, which unfortunately is basically everyone at some point in their life.
Being confronted and having to think about or explain your bigotry is the only way they can learn.
In my opinion, shaming people for bigoted opinions can be effective and even necessary at times, but only serves to change people’s behavior.
I’ve found that the main thing that changes people’s thoughts or values are measured explanations or evidence to the contrary.
I wish more people understood this
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“News flash, women have it faaaaaaaaar better than men.” - [email protected]
Going to leave this here for posterity in case you try to edit this comment too.
What makes you think me deleting my post meant anything ?? I want to save server space, but hey thanks for proving how much of a raging rage-baiter you are.
Correction: you are a misandrist, not a rage-baiter
“I deleted my sexist comment because I wanted to save the server 57 bytes!!!1111”
Suuure you did champ.
Coward.