You treat them as less than human, unworthy to have a dialogue with. They treat a group of people as less than human too. The only difference is the pretext. The cause can be good or bad, it doesn’t justify crappy behaviour.
I’m not saying “turn on another cheek”, I’m saying that an individual is not responsible for the deeds of another individual, both of which you’ve attributed to the same group. Groups are abstractions anyway, people should be judged individually and based of their actions, otherwise it’s just plain bigotry.
I also said that it’s only human to make mistake in your judgements and worldviews. That means that someday anyone could end up on the receiveing end, yourself included. If such people are ostracized, it will only lead to further radicalization of their erronous views, further polarizing both sides of conflict.
You treat them as less than human, unworthy to have a dialogue with. They treat a group of people as less than human too. The only difference is the pretext. The cause can be good or bad, it doesn’t justify crappy behaviour.
You don’t open dialogue with Nazis, you punch them. Likewise you don’t debate bro reactionary rightists, we’re not playing that Charlie Kirk bullshit game.
Groups are abstractions anyway, people should be judged individually and based of their actions, otherwise it’s just plain bigotry.
Cool, which is exactly what this comic is about. The individual man is being a dick, and getting judged for it.
I also said that it’s only human to make mistake in your judgements and worldviews.
I have been wrong many times, and I’ve been rightfully ripped into for it. I’ve grown because of that. I do not accept that as a reason to coddle pricks.
we’re not playing that Charlie Kirk bullshit game.
Charlie Kirk was a politician, and operated on political level. His reason for doing all the “debate me” charade is purely of media representation interests.
By punching a “nazi” you’ll only get punched in return, and further villanize yourself in “nazi’s” view. Considering that there still lots of people with quite conservative views, by “punching a nazi” you would do a counter-productive job at proving your worldview, thus making your opponents more confident in theirs.
Cool, which is exactly what this comic is about. The individual man is being a dick, and getting judged for it.
Except my issue is not with the comic. It’s with you treating people as obstacles. Dehumanization is a not nice thing to do due to multiple reasons.
I have been wrong many times, and I’ve been rightfully ripped into for it.
you seem to fail at differentiating between critique and pure hatred. Right now you’re spreading nothihg but hatred, and that’s why i said that you’re not much better than the people you hate. You use your sense of morality to justify the hatred, they use theirs. The result is the same: no actions taken, only people going for each other’s throats. Basically, you’re just as “nazi”, the difference is only in the agenda you push. They too believe to be morally correct, you know.
People won’t be able to change unless you point them out, where they ought to change and why, and society is kinda not a thing without the communication.
Yes, there are people incapable of change, and yes, they deserve the hate. Only those are always in a minority.
What makes me better than a misogynist and I should be nice to them too?
That’s your argument?
Not the main one, but sure.
You treat them as less than human, unworthy to have a dialogue with. They treat a group of people as less than human too. The only difference is the pretext. The cause can be good or bad, it doesn’t justify crappy behaviour.
I’m not saying “turn on another cheek”, I’m saying that an individual is not responsible for the deeds of another individual, both of which you’ve attributed to the same group. Groups are abstractions anyway, people should be judged individually and based of their actions, otherwise it’s just plain bigotry.
I also said that it’s only human to make mistake in your judgements and worldviews. That means that someday anyone could end up on the receiveing end, yourself included. If such people are ostracized, it will only lead to further radicalization of their erronous views, further polarizing both sides of conflict.
You don’t open dialogue with Nazis, you punch them. Likewise you don’t debate bro reactionary rightists, we’re not playing that Charlie Kirk bullshit game.
Cool, which is exactly what this comic is about. The individual man is being a dick, and getting judged for it.
I have been wrong many times, and I’ve been rightfully ripped into for it. I’ve grown because of that. I do not accept that as a reason to coddle pricks.
Charlie Kirk was a politician, and operated on political level. His reason for doing all the “debate me” charade is purely of media representation interests.
By punching a “nazi” you’ll only get punched in return, and further villanize yourself in “nazi’s” view. Considering that there still lots of people with quite conservative views, by “punching a nazi” you would do a counter-productive job at proving your worldview, thus making your opponents more confident in theirs.
Except my issue is not with the comic. It’s with you treating people as obstacles. Dehumanization is a not nice thing to do due to multiple reasons.
you seem to fail at differentiating between critique and pure hatred. Right now you’re spreading nothihg but hatred, and that’s why i said that you’re not much better than the people you hate. You use your sense of morality to justify the hatred, they use theirs. The result is the same: no actions taken, only people going for each other’s throats. Basically, you’re just as “nazi”, the difference is only in the agenda you push. They too believe to be morally correct, you know.
People won’t be able to change unless you point them out, where they ought to change and why, and society is kinda not a thing without the communication.
Yes, there are people incapable of change, and yes, they deserve the hate. Only those are always in a minority.