After seeing a megathread praising Mao Zedong, an actual mass killer, and a post about a guy saying “99% of westerners are 100000000000% sure they know what happened in ‘Tiny Man Square’ […] the reasons for this are complex and involve propaganda […],” I am genuinely curious what leads people to this belief system. Even if propaganda is involved when it comes to Tiananmen Square, it doesn’t change the atrocities that were/are committed everywhere else in China.
I am all for letting people believe what they want but I am lost on why one would deliberately praise any authoritarian system this hard.
Can someone please help me understand why this is such a large and prominent community? How have these ideals garnered such a following outside of China?
EDIT: Thank you to everyone who has responded! This thread has been very insightful :)
hi masquenox! I don’t know why you complain about our comments when you famously don’t even bother reading them!
When someone asks why malaria is such a prevalent disease I don’t bother with the opinions of mosquitos.
Low effort cop-out
Says the creepos who start speaking in animated gif as soon as anyone points out the gigantic holes in their stories.
Anything’s possible when you make shit up kiddo
Is that why your personality cult-objects tried made-up-socialism?
Weak, try harder liberal
Ok.
Is that why your personality cult-objects tried fake socialism?
Get new material
Says the user that gets in arguments and stops reading their interlocutor’s responses?
You sounding like every other tankie out there is not a me problem. It’s a you problem.
“People who have similar political ideas say similar things to me and I think that’s problem” lol
Really? I have similar ideas to an anti-socialist?
Proof?
Lol learn to read
How do you know that without reading the responses?
Well, this is just a wild guess… but perhaps it’s got something to do with the fact that I haven’t encountered one of you in the last decade that doesn’t sound just like every other tankie?
That’s called ideological consistency, the fact that a bunch of people who ostensibly agree on politics and society say similar things is in fact normal, if your cohort doesn’t do that it’s a fairly strong indication that you’re all fucking clueless
But you didn’t read the responses, so are you just skimming through them and responding based on vibes? It seems wrong to land at any concrete conclusions based on that level of investigation.
Seems pretty reasonable to me. There is no point in actually engaging with you. Any and all evidence against you will just get handwaved away as “western propaganda” with no evidence whatsoever. Then you will immediately pivot to insults and name calling. That’s every conversation with a tankie ever. It’s mind numbing and not even good entertainment.
There are tons of extensive detailed responses here already and you’re not engaging for shit, quit lying
In this thread, there’s only about 2 or 3 lengthy comments with citations from the side that’s critical of MLs. There are about a dozen from MLs explaining their positions.
It’s especially a tankie thing though. When one side of an argument knows full well that there won’t be any good faith arguments from the other, they tend to revert to similar behavior. Wrestle with a pig and you both get muddy, but the pig enjoys it.
I don’t bother with well structured arguments against flat earthers, young earth creationists, or climate change deniers either. There is just no point in bothering.
Nah you’re just butthurt
Okay but you said that “tankies” always devolve to namecalling and insults but I showed you at least 6 direct examples of MLs responding to criticisms in this thread with lengthy responses, citing a bunch of sources. There’s more comments in this thread that don’t cite sources but still are fairly nuanced and explain where they’re coming from without namecalling or insults. To your credit, the critics also have written some comments that are thoughtful and well argued! There actually can be meaningful discourse, and good faith arguments. I don’t know why you say that you know full well that there won’t be good faith when you can clearly see people in this thread trying their best to communicate.
Facts!