• theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
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    Don’t claim your relationship with ads is “actively hostile” if your actions can be described as “skipping” and “muting”.

    You should be blocking. I don’t skip or mute anything, ever, because I don’t allow ads into my life.

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        I started to get mine set up, and was almost done. Then we moved and it got put in a box and i haven’t found it yet. You bet your bottom dollar im reconfiguring that thing as soon as i find it

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      The only ads I still have to skip are podcast sponsor segments. And sometimes YouTube sponsor segments; I have SponsorBlock but that only works on very popular videos.

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      muting is the correct action on tv, or even change channel temporarily

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      Isn’t there an argument that it’s better to get them to waste money sending the ads? Does blocking prevent the adverters paying? I’m not sure how that works.

      I got almost everything blocked, but one thing I can’t totally is podcasts, so there I skip em.

      Sadly with adverts literally everywhere, there’s no single solution!

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      I don’t allow ads into my life.

      I don’t allow serial killers into my life, but they keep trying to smash through my windows and tackle me on running trails.

      Feels like a guy in a horror movie snidely insisting “Just don’t dream about Freddie Krueger and you’ll be fine”.

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        Except blocking them is trivial, and they must be requested by the browser/client, so it’s much more like vampires than serial killers.

        Just because a website gives your computer instructions to initiate requests to an ad server doesn’t mean your computer has to execute those instructions. It’s your computer, your electricity, your network.

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          Except blocking them is trivial

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_advertising

          Significantly more difficult to block ads that woven into the observed content.

          Like, there are definitely ads that are easy to block. And ads that are more intrusive by design. And software that’s better at getting the more embedded ads. And ads that are better at evading the software.

          But it’s a game of cat and mouse. There’s no panacea, just moments when the anti-ads guys have an edge.

          Just because a website gives your computer instructions to initiate requests to an ad server doesn’t mean your computer has to execute those instructions.

          If you’re watching ET and you get to the scene where he’s eating a line of Reese’s Pieces to get lured into the kid’s room, you’re watching an ad.

          There’s no way to not watch the ad other than to stop watching the movie.

          And this high tech advancement in advertising was pioneered over 40 years ago.

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            And ads that are better at evading the software.

            Yeah, no. Ad servers are not initiating incoming network requests to your devices. Your devices are openly asking for the ads, and it’s not an obfuscated secret, it’s a standard network request. This evasion is imagined fiction. It isn’t an arms race, there’s never been a time when ad blockers stopped working and had to change how they function to beat the ads again.

            There’s no way to not watch the ad other than to stop watching the movie.

            other than to stop watching the movie.

            stop watching the movie.

            Your terms are acceptable.

            high tech advancement in advertising was pioneered over 40 years ago

            Huh? What exactly is the “high tech advancement” you’re referring to? Filming a product in a movie? Seems kinda low tech…

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              Ad servers are not initiating incoming network requests to your devices.

              They’re piggybacking in on intended content. Or they’re gating content behind ad walls. Or they’re initiating requests on channels not yet flagged as ad servers. Or just permeating your electronics through the OS vendor, the SMS protocol, email, you name it.

              What exactly is the “high tech advancement” you’re referring to?

              Sarcasm, mate. You simply include the commercial as part of the main body of media.

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                Or they’re initiating requests on channels not yet flagged as ad servers.

                You’re misinformed. Reality is they aren’t initiating requests at all.

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      Give them bad data. Click on ads you’re totally disinterested in, ignore ones you’re interested in. Flip that sometimes. That’s actively hostile.

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        Pihole is open source software, so it is free and can run on basically any hardware. You could use an old laptop, a raspberry pi or other cheap SoC, and I think it might even be possible to run on something like an old Android phone.