• BilboBargains@lemmy.world
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    America is a warrior nation. What they call news is actually fear mongering twaddle. Their heroic archetypes in film solve problems with violence. The state itself increasingly behaves like a robber baron. They are obsessed with weapons. School shootings are but one grotesque outcome of this pathology but however disgusting those events are, gun ownership is ubiquitous. It’s a society that would destroy itself rather than admit it’s wrong.

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    People who migrate from states with a strong “culture of honor” bring with them a don’t-back-down defensiveness learned in their home communities, and that makes them more likely to die by violence even in historically safe states […] The most violent U.S. regions — Appalachia, the Deep South and the old frontier states — are still deeply marked by a Wild West, stand-your-ground ethos,

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      That does make perfect sense. Fear is what often causes violence. Here in the United States, countless people live in fear. It’s a great failing of our society, and it’s VERY strongly exhibited by Republicans.

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    The study doesn’t seem to do any calculations regarding socioeconomic statuses? I doubt a wealthy highly-educated man from Kentucky would have similar “following violence” if he moved to Wisconsin or whatever the examples were… or someone moving for a long-term job offer… but rather people from worse socioeconomic backgrounds moving to a bigger city without many promises and then getting caught up in more shit.

    It’s the same result regardless, but it doesn’t feel like it’s only because of some macho-culture thing.

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      While I agree with you to some extent, I would also argue that someone who grows up in a culture where many disputes are “solved” with violence, or where a noticable percentage of people don’t have the emotional maturity to handle their anger without physical expression, is also likely to struggle with those issues when they move away from that culture. Socioeconomic class is not a replacement for emotional maturity, it simply gives one some more leeway before some types of pressure apply - and they’re often replaced with other types of pressure.

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        You are sorta right but missing the idea of inheritance. A man in Kentucky with enough resources to move probably didn’t live in a trailer park or likely didn’t go to public school. He was raised with a tutor and in “that house” in the town.

        Moving doesn’t make you a better person but if you have the means your child is not growing up in that culture, maybe Kentucky but not in a trailer…

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          Probably a statistically insignificant number of people fall under that definition, but I see your point.

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      Homicide rate ranges from 1.9 per 100k in New Hampshire to over 19 per 100k in Mississippi and Louisiana, so there are certainly some states that are 10x more violent than others.

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      It’s a spectrum of intensity like sweet or sour

      Except instead you sort the states by gun homicides and domestic violence rates

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        Well, perhaps easier access to mental therapy could mitigate the problem? At least, I would like to think so.

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          Be careful speaking truth, if these kids could read, you might be violently downvoted by brave and free Muricans.

          And to answer your question. Always has been.

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            Always??? Nah. We’re just the latest incarnation of “the absolute worst motherfuckers always have the biggest sticks.”

            But now? Yes. We are definitely the problem.

            Everyone else please get your sticks ready. If we fail to stop this shit internally (and it ain’t looking good) you’re gonna need them.

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          If you want to ignore all nuance and never actually find a solution to said problem… sure!

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    TIL: Violent citizens more from state to state taking the violence with them?