• zcd@lemmy.ca
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    Crushed? Or drove away tons of OC creators and active members leaving a bot filled wasteland?

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      I mean, it’s a victory if they shout it loudly enough, right? A lie repeated long enough, so it goes:

      Company is going bankrupt, users are gone, laying off the bottom quartile of the company, but they stopped the protest! Etc.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Reddit_API_controversy

      https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/reddits-golden-geese-foul-up-its-ipo-plans-2023-06-16/

      It’s like reading the top two lines of a disaster report and declaring victory. Fuck Reddit.

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        Even during the protest a lot of users thought it was caused by “power-mad” mods, some people just eat what they’re fed.

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            Only partially, it was stated in lots of places and ways that it was in protest of the API pricing changes, and of the reaction of Reddit admins.

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      Well, I still visit Reddit once a week since there are communities there that don’t yet exist here (or they are nearly empty).

      I’m now all the time on Lemmy and am even much more active than what I ever was on Reddit, but I only have so much time.

      I noticed there are slightly less quality posts in some subreddits, but I wouldn’t call Reddit crushed.

      In fact, subscribers in all the subreddits I used to follow are actually up and even by a lot, while Lemmy users don’t really seem to increase by much (though I’d like them to).

      I’d like to see a sudden growth in Lemmy and fall of Reddit, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near (though I’ll keep doing my part here!)

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        The comments on Reddit are way worse now, it’s extremely noticeable. Look at comments on /r/science for example. They’re all shitty jokes which used to get deleted.

        The vast majority of subs are completely unmoderated now or taken over by a small group of people. Like /r/worldnews allowing people to openly support literal genocide of Arabs.

        Reddit quality absolutely took a hit after this debacle.

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          Reddit always had a problem with far right/anti science dogwhistlers, but it also seems like it’s gotten much worse. Maybe I was just desensitized and I’m noticing it more because I don’t go there much, or maybe it is actually worse because it’s an election year, but it also wouldn’t surprise me if the .01% of frequent commentors who left full-time for Lemmy represent a significant brain drain.

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          not to mention the continued guarantee of enshittification. We’ve only just seen the beginning of their pursuit of short term profits at the expense of their core value: the userbase.

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      🙄

      Crushed. Lots lots more of over at reddit as well as a smaller percent reposting.

      Lemmys front page is a ton of bots reposting content from Reddit.

      Neither of the services have a lot of OC.

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        It took a couple weeks but I’ve found that blocking some bot accounts and adjusting the sorting on the app I use has plenty of fresh content with active posts. It isn’t exactly the same as reddit in its prime, but I shouldn’t expect it to be either.

        It’s causing me to branch out into other topics and conversations that I probably would’ve missed on a gigantic platform like reddit. I think reddit made it easy to see interesting content because of how long it had to develop into a community. Lemmy is still a bit jumbled and fragmented, but the community seems to be sticking around and forming a new identity apart from reddit.

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      I sometimes use Instagram though and it’s soo much bot and ai contend.

      Idk Reddit cuz I don’t go there anymore, but it seems the internet is fakker and fakker.

      I just hope it’s real people that im messing with here in Lemmy. Because at least y’all still fight and argue XD, the comments aren’t brain dead.

      Except for these guys that I just talked to that said they didn’t like Oppenheimer

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        As an example, I don’t understand people decrying reposted content from reddit. Also we have Risa, they don’t.

        But reposting is literally what reddit is too. And how it got started, reposting and bot comments from Digg. At least here you lot are all great to talk with.

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          r/Risa actually started on Reddit (source: I created it) and the mods who didn’t quit for Lemmy decided to reopen, but the Lemmy version is definitely the more active and superior of the two, IMO.

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        Dead internet theory

        This post made by a normal human person

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        My only problem with Oppenheimer is that they should have issued earplugs upon entering the theater. Shit hurt my ears.

        Like, I get that bombs are loud, but I don’t need to actually feel pain and probably damage my hearing to get the picture.

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    I havent used reddit at all since August and from June 12 to August i was on the site for ~10 minutes total. I am a total lemmy user now with no need to use reddit at all. I dont even miss it since i can get everything here i did over their.

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      Same. I had an account that was probably 12+ years old. Reddit was a huge part of my recreational schedule.

      I genuinely prefer Lemmy. The lack of algorithms pushing engagement is good for the soul. It’s here when I want it and I can leave it whenever I’m done.

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        Reddit was a big part of my day too. I had redreader easily accessible so i could just pop it open whenever i wanted to. Now Thunder has taken its place.

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      I did the same, but athough I love this place, there’s still a huge scarcity of contents. Sometimes, as a lurker, to find more stuff. Here we’re just an handful, thus I cannot still find here what I used to find on Reddit.

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        What is really lacking is all the very specific communities centered around common interests. The more specific the harder, especially if it’s not a traditionally nerdy subject. I mean, there’s an obvious bias, and I won’t pretend I am not part of it.

        Those used to have dedicated forums, but Reddit manage to capture them all for convenience, and now very few subsist. A good part of what’s left has been abandoned to AI spambots.

        Part of this activity is now on discord, but the invite structure isn’t great for those. It makes this content hard to discover and impossible to search if you’re not aware of it.

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      I’ve only been there when DuckDuckGo has directed me there in a search.

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    IMO they didn’t crush anything?

    The apathetic remained.

    Those who have niche communities that aren’t available elsewhere likely remained.

    Several of my subscribed subs are completely gone or functionally extinct due to lack of participation.

    Anecdotally I find reduced participation in other subs, people seem less willing to have a discussion.

    Personally I’ve moved on to Lemmy/KBin/etc. and spend most of my time there now.

    But “crushed”?

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    Oh yeah I feel soooooo defeated and crushed just like soooooo sad that I have to be here and not with spez

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    I know how everyone just wants to pipe up and say, “well it didn’t crush me hur hur”, but I actually watched the video. It’s a good record of what went down. I wish it would’ve mentioned Reddit alternatives, but it’s still solid work.

    And to anyone who still maintains that the protest has fatally wounded Reddit, look, I’m on your side but Reddit is still the 800 lb gorilla of link aggregation, and most folks still don’t get why they should care about API pricing.

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    I started using reddit in 2011. Was nuts to see the changes it underwent. A lot of them bad.

    Since leaving reddit during that protest, been more than happy to call Lemmy home. Especially when I go back to browse reddit occasionally and see how incredibly toxic and negative it is all the time. I don’t know if I was blind to it before or if it got worse. Every comment thread is awful. They focus on the negative of everything and are just bitter and angry.

    Place sucks ass.

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      I’d you disagree with the wrong mod or say something “offensive” banned. They look at your appeal and nothing changes.

      At this point it’s just adult children “working” in their parents basement not making any money.

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        Bro if you comment in a subreddit the mods don’t like you’re instantly banned, even if ironic. Mods over there are on a power trip and the lack of a modlog means zero accountability.

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          Even with a modlog, the mods are clearly removing comments. I can’t tell you how many times I’ll click on a link that reads anywhere from 10-25 “more comments in this thread,” only for it to tell me there are no more comments when I click to load them.

          I don’t know how bans work over here, but I have seen lemmings complain that they got banned temporarily, but never got any notifications of the ban.

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      same. reddit is populated with users who’s comments are generally indistinguishable from those of a 12-15 year old.

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      I’m one of the mods of a few subs even though I’m no longer active. I hopped on yesterday and had a chat with the remaining mods of a couple of subs. They’ve been SO busy moderating assholes, propagandists, aggressive conspiracy theorists, and spam bots. They’re suspending and banning accounts every day or two when it used to be an account or two every month. These are all small to medium sized, niche subs dedicated to helping people and sharing various ideas and people are trolling and harassing users like they’ve never seen before.

      I checked out some of the subs’s contents and in short order found I let myself get sucked into trying to educate an anti-masker in a sub that really shouldn’t attract that type. It went how you’d expect, and it made me realize I haven’t had a single interaction like that on Lemmy. It’s nicer here.

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    Hey, I’m over here in Methadone Reddit, getting by. It’s not as fun as Reddit used to be, but after the bug-eyed lemur boy decided to be a leading tech giant™ and fuck over his users in the process, I decided it was time to amscray. Sorry, King Julien. It was fun for a while, before your embarrassing power trip, but now you’re just going to have to kiss my mad-ass-gasgar.

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    The only thing that matters to me is that the vast majority of my interactions on Reddit are shite ones with negative assholes, while the vast majority of my interactions here are pretty chill. Reddit won’t die, but if it did… I wouldn’t miss it one bit.

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      That’s because instance admins have zero incentive to tolerate even the slightest bit of bullshit. Reddit didn’t care because trolls and jerks generate engagement.

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    Yeah, they threatened and when I didn’t budge, they disabled my account. I found out lately, because I have been gone from that hellhole since summer. Somehow they forgot to reopen my subreddit I’ve marked as Private. I’m (was) the sole admin. Well, go fuck yourself Spaz.

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    Reddit didn’t do shit. Lemmy and Kbin crushed it by existing as alternatives. People who were unhappy just went there and settled.

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    I deleted my Reddit accounts on the morning of the apicalypse, I still read Reddit though, but Lemmy has mostly replaced my social media use, and I spend more time on Lemmy than on Reddit these days.