It kills me when people with disposable cash whine about people who don’t. You chose to ignore the roll of the dice in circumstance and financial stability that empowered your financial choices above others who simply couldn’t afford the risk, and instead lay the blame on a wild strawman that seeks comfort over an unforgiving inequitable system
I don’t understand why I keep responding to people who’s first port of call in any situation is to hurl abuse. I should just ignore it, like everyone else does, I know – but I live in the hope that if you keep the conversation open long enough, they’ll begin to reflect on their conversational reflexes.
It kills me when people with many tools that a normal person don’t have call their shit “easy DIY [thing name]”
It’s not easy if in the first place i have to buy tools! At this point i will just buy it 😭
I can understand id the requirements are things like a drill, a hammer or screwdrivers but more than that is just naah
What if I like to build skills/things AND play video games? Often I even combine these concepts and refurbish, modify, customize consoles, input devices, computers, etc.
Why do you have to be so negative about it? I’m happy with my tools and skills, and I also really enjoy my video games.
We just moved in to a new house. We’re going to do a ton of customization at this place. It’s the first home we have that we can really treat like a forever home, so I’m going to go nuts with built ins and other projects.
My first project? Simply giving the master bedroom closet a new coat of paint. Budget? About $250 in paint, spackle, brushes, tape, etc. That’s $250 in materials alone. And all I’m doing is painting a closet.
I’m also going to spend about $6-10k outfitting my new workshop space, including the dust collection and other appurtenances I’ll build out. And I’ll use that to build a house’s worth of built ins.
But make no mistake, making stuff yourself is neither cheap nor easy. My general rule for a piece of good hardwood furniture is that it will cost about the same in materials alone that an equivalent ikea piece would cost. And I focous on materials as those are independent of tool cost.
Also if you are just learning, the cost of mistakes, buying a new piece of wood, buying cheap shitty wood to do a practice run with, tools you break, etc
And, your time. Everything takes so much more time than you might think, especially when you are inexperienced and you need to stop and think about what you are doing every couple of steps, even if just to double check yourself.
In the end? I think it’s worth it to build and fix things yourself; but if I didn’t have a lifetime of trying and learning at this point, it would certainly feel like an impossible hill to climb. If you have kids, teach them everything you can about it. Self-repair was the first victim of enshittification; if you can’t repair it yourself then you don’t really own it.
Especially when it’s super basic stuff. You don’t need a lathe or a planer for DYI stuff, and you don’t need four kinds of saw and three sanding machines. They’re nice to have, but you can do almost everything with sandpaper and a handsaw and a mediocre set of screwdrivers if you take the time.
But how can you live without a power drill? I’m Dutch, so all the houses here are brick and concrete, and basically nobody owns a good pneumatic drill. If you live in a house where a little 18V battery drill with a vibrate function works, that’s great, but a large group of people just accept that they can never make a hole in a wall ever.
Brick walls are OK, you’ll get through baked clay with most drills (eventually). My current ceiling might as well be a bunker though, I’m so glad I’ve got a basic 1800 watt hammer drill.
Isn’t still not exactly easy, but it will get through.
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It kills me when people with disposable cash whine about people who don’t. You chose to ignore the roll of the dice in circumstance and financial stability that empowered your financial choices above others who simply couldn’t afford the risk, and instead lay the blame on a wild strawman that seeks comfort over an unforgiving inequitable system
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I don’t understand why I keep responding to people who’s first port of call in any situation is to hurl abuse. I should just ignore it, like everyone else does, I know – but I live in the hope that if you keep the conversation open long enough, they’ll begin to reflect on their conversational reflexes.
Eh, who knows
Man, what an asshole you sound like
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It kills me when people with many tools that a normal person don’t have call their shit “easy DIY [thing name]” It’s not easy if in the first place i have to buy tools! At this point i will just buy it 😭
I can understand id the requirements are things like a drill, a hammer or screwdrivers but more than that is just naah
I can understand for some specific things though
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What if the project requires a lathe and you have no space for one 😔
I mean I could find a place to use one, but how is that relevant to your comment about acquiring gear? Isn’t my living situation the limiting factor?
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What if I like to build skills/things AND play video games? Often I even combine these concepts and refurbish, modify, customize consoles, input devices, computers, etc.
Why do you have to be so negative about it? I’m happy with my tools and skills, and I also really enjoy my video games.
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We just moved in to a new house. We’re going to do a ton of customization at this place. It’s the first home we have that we can really treat like a forever home, so I’m going to go nuts with built ins and other projects.
My first project? Simply giving the master bedroom closet a new coat of paint. Budget? About $250 in paint, spackle, brushes, tape, etc. That’s $250 in materials alone. And all I’m doing is painting a closet.
I’m also going to spend about $6-10k outfitting my new workshop space, including the dust collection and other appurtenances I’ll build out. And I’ll use that to build a house’s worth of built ins.
But make no mistake, making stuff yourself is neither cheap nor easy. My general rule for a piece of good hardwood furniture is that it will cost about the same in materials alone that an equivalent ikea piece would cost. And I focous on materials as those are independent of tool cost.
Also if you are just learning, the cost of mistakes, buying a new piece of wood, buying cheap shitty wood to do a practice run with, tools you break, etc
And, your time. Everything takes so much more time than you might think, especially when you are inexperienced and you need to stop and think about what you are doing every couple of steps, even if just to double check yourself.
In the end? I think it’s worth it to build and fix things yourself; but if I didn’t have a lifetime of trying and learning at this point, it would certainly feel like an impossible hill to climb. If you have kids, teach them everything you can about it. Self-repair was the first victim of enshittification; if you can’t repair it yourself then you don’t really own it.
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Especially when it’s super basic stuff. You don’t need a lathe or a planer for DYI stuff, and you don’t need four kinds of saw and three sanding machines. They’re nice to have, but you can do almost everything with sandpaper and a handsaw and a mediocre set of screwdrivers if you take the time.
But how can you live without a power drill? I’m Dutch, so all the houses here are brick and concrete, and basically nobody owns a good pneumatic drill. If you live in a house where a little 18V battery drill with a vibrate function works, that’s great, but a large group of people just accept that they can never make a hole in a wall ever.
Have you ever rigged a cheat bar to a screwdriver before? It’s not a good time.
At that point, if you’re DIYing, that’s when you buy a grinder, or maybe a dremel or multitool.
I’ve had to deal with a small amount of masonry drilling at work, and I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy. Can’t imagine dealing with that at home.
Brick walls are OK, you’ll get through baked clay with most drills (eventually). My current ceiling might as well be a bunker though, I’m so glad I’ve got a basic 1800 watt hammer drill.
Isn’t still not exactly easy, but it will get through.
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