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floofloof@lemmy.ca to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 day ago

Justice Department Says Filming Immigration Raids Is 'Domestic Terrorism'

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Justice Department Says Filming Immigration Raids Is 'Domestic Terrorism'

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Justice Department says filming immigration raids is 'domestic terrorism'
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A leaked Justice Department memo directs federal prosecutors to press “domestic terrorism” charges against individuals who record immigration operations.
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  • Railing5132@lemmy.world
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    This has been their stance since September. It has been tried in several federal district courts and has been shot down every time (thank fuck). The Supreme Court has declined to take up the government’s appeals (thank fuck). So, a rare win for the good guys?

  • phaedrus@piefed.world
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    I guess it’s technically true: “regular people terrorize nazi dogs by filming their mis-deeds”

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    Like when DHS used footage of their paramilitary operation in Chicago as promotional material?

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    i’d argue ICE proud boy nazi Justice Department hires are terrorizing the American public.

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    So, recording illegal shit done by an administration headed up by a convict is “terrorism” now.

    So much freedom.

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    Is this what CPAC meant when their banner said “We Are All Domestic Terrorists” ?

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      This year the banner will say, “You are all domestic terrorists.”

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    The DOJ can say anything it likes. They lost all credibility and no one believes them anymore.

    • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I mean, what they say determines whether you’re going to jail or not

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        Does it though? It seems like they’re going with their vibes more than the law. Wouldn’t matter if you listen to them or not, piss law enforcement off and you’re a terrorist. They’ll find something you did to fit the bill.

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    I will be sure to do it then. Guess we’re terrorists now.

  • [鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma]|[alt: 黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui]@sh.itjust.works
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    Wait what, I never knew CPAC is filming immigration raids.

    (Cuz CPAC said they’re all domestic terrorists)

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    So, filming domestic terrorism is now domestic terrorism?

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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      Yo dawg I heard you like domestic terrorism, so we put domestic terrorism into your domestic terrorism, so you can commit domestic terrorism while committing domestic terrorism.

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        Please U.S.A., Pimp my authoritarian police state! 🙏

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      kinda like how they made ag gag laws, so you can film animal abuse in plants and farms.

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        That’s fucked up enough, but filming inside the plants and farms could be considered inside somebody else’s private property. This seems like it could be applied to filming on a street corner or even your own home.

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      War is peace.

      Freedom is slavery.

      Ignorance is strength.

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        “Fighting for Peace is like fucking for Virginity.” -John Lennon

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    You do not have an expectation of privacy in public. This is not doxing. That’s not even what doxing means.

    Everything is dumb.

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      You assume this administration gives a shit about reason and rules.

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    Good luck with that. I hope I get called to jury duty for one of those cases.

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      does no one remember the 2000s? the whole point of calling something terrorism is to circumvent due process. no jury, not even a lawyer.

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        They are blocking offshore wind turbines due to unspecified “classified national security issues” as a gimmick to block legal appeals.

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      How optimistic of you, to think there will be a trial. Those camps are ultimately for us all.

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        They’re currently building a 30,000 bed facility in Guantanamo Bay, presumably to hold people they can’t deport, like American citizen “domestic terrorists.” Our very own CECOT.

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          “Domestic terrorists”

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            It’s always the ones you mostly suspect.

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        Or the ones to come where they work us as actual chattel slaves and kill those they deem subhuman.

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    Prosecute Flock for every camera that ever recorded ICE activity, even just a vehicle driving on the highway.

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      Create an app that takes Flock’s incredible poorly secured data and uses it to track and publicly broadcast 24/7 the location of every ICE and federal law enforcement agent you can.

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      i bet flock also feeds into PALINTIR in every PD.

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    This amounts to lowering the bar for those willing to say “if I’m going to be a terrorist then fuck it” and start shooting. It’s irresponsible and dangerous.

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      “Tewwowism is wen I dun lyk it :(”

      –The Department of Justice Knowingly Doing Obviously Illegal Crap

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      Any excuse to escalate is fine by them.

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    Haha supreme court says we have a 1st amendment right to film law enforcement. Get fucked pedo lovers.

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      For now.

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      Hmm, interesting position to take. Why don’t you sit in prison for the next few years, while we test your theory at every level of the courts. In 6-9 years, if SCOTUS says you were right, you can go home victorious.

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        They already have. Why dont you get a life, troll.

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          They’re saying the administration doesn’t care about previous rulings and will continue to test the limits.

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            Thats great, there are people that have careers, currently, in testing those limits. They prevail each time. Learn your rights and stand your ground.

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      But the DOJ has pretty much unlimited resources and essentially no penalty for frivolous lawsuits.

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      Uh huh,like all those other times that the supreme court did “the right thing”?

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      supreme court says

      hmmm

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