I bought a MacBook Air M2.
As of writing, it's very affordable with the 16 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD, 13.6" model available for $750.
As of writing, also Asahi Linux doesn't support anything newer than M2.
Also the article says that in the context of paying for the apple physical laptop experience, which is really top notch (so everything other than the mobo and is immediate bits).
Eg my use-case - I only ever need my laptop for extremely light work, so experience in handling it is way more important than the computing hardware.
Actually I would still want a MacBook with like an Intel Pentium in it - but I can’t buy a good frame with a shitty CPU, I need to buy a better overall laptop.
I still don’t own anything Apple, but with Linux I just might, that’s why I keep tabs on this project.
If an old CPU would work for, I highly recommend and older Intel based Mac. They run amazingly well with Linux and, as you say, the “experience” is excellent.
The MacBooks with T2 chips are a bit less ideal as they require a special kernel. And the 2020 MacBook Air has crappy thermals and runs up the fan. There is a version of EndeavourOS that installs everything ou-of-the box through. The WiFi in these old Macs is out of tree but many of them require the Broadcom wl driver which Arch Linux distros ship by default. Depending on model, the out-of-tree FaceTimeHD camera module may be required but it ships in Arch distros as a DKMS packages. So, again, everything just works.
They really are a joy to use. I bought a 2013 MacBook Air a few years ago for less than $100. I bought it to go on backpacking trip because it was light and I did not worry about breaking it or having it stolen. I love it so much I still use it several times a week and it still amazes me what it can do.
I really hope the project doesn’t die, they had some people leave recently and there was some drama over that. Apple hardware is really nice, and with Linux it would be strictly superior to macos which is just bloated garbage at this point. I’m also hoping we’ll see somebody else make a similar architecture to M series using ARM or RISCV targeting Linux. Maybe we’ll see some Chinese vendors go RISCV route in the future.
Yeah, I never though the project would cover apple silicon tbh, it’s amazing what they are doing.
I too really hope RISC-V becomes a thing, slowly getting them foss PCs would be such a nice thing for humanity.
(With EU curiously looking into it’s own independence maybe we could invest into our own RISC-V production …)
Exactly, and there is already some work happening in that regard. This project is focusing on making a high performance RISCV architecture https://github.com/OpenXiangShan/XiangShan
Also the article says that in the context of paying for the apple physical laptop experience, which is really top notch (so everything other than the mobo and is immediate bits).
Eg my use-case - I only ever need my laptop for extremely light work, so experience in handling it is way more important than the computing hardware.
Actually I would still want a MacBook with like an Intel Pentium in it - but I can’t buy a good frame with a shitty CPU, I need to buy a better overall laptop.
I still don’t own anything Apple, but with Linux I just might, that’s why I keep tabs on this project.
If an old CPU would work for, I highly recommend and older Intel based Mac. They run amazingly well with Linux and, as you say, the “experience” is excellent.
The MacBooks with T2 chips are a bit less ideal as they require a special kernel. And the 2020 MacBook Air has crappy thermals and runs up the fan. There is a version of EndeavourOS that installs everything ou-of-the box through. The WiFi in these old Macs is out of tree but many of them require the Broadcom wl driver which Arch Linux distros ship by default. Depending on model, the out-of-tree FaceTimeHD camera module may be required but it ships in Arch distros as a DKMS packages. So, again, everything just works.
They really are a joy to use. I bought a 2013 MacBook Air a few years ago for less than $100. I bought it to go on backpacking trip because it was light and I did not worry about breaking it or having it stolen. I love it so much I still use it several times a week and it still amazes me what it can do.
I really hope the project doesn’t die, they had some people leave recently and there was some drama over that. Apple hardware is really nice, and with Linux it would be strictly superior to macos which is just bloated garbage at this point. I’m also hoping we’ll see somebody else make a similar architecture to M series using ARM or RISCV targeting Linux. Maybe we’ll see some Chinese vendors go RISCV route in the future.
Yeah, I never though the project would cover apple silicon tbh, it’s amazing what they are doing.
I too really hope RISC-V becomes a thing, slowly getting them foss PCs would be such a nice thing for humanity.
(With EU curiously looking into it’s own independence maybe we could invest into our own RISC-V production …)
Exactly, and there is already some work happening in that regard. This project is focusing on making a high performance RISCV architecture https://github.com/OpenXiangShan/XiangShan