information comes from biased discourse modified by 35 years of anticommunist propaganda, which is extremely prevalent in Baltic countries, together with anti-Russian racism
You think because you live in Spain, the other end of Europe, you somehow know better what the Baltic people went through during the two Russian occupations than the people actually living there? Grandparents passing down real accounts of atrocities?
Wow. You really are fucking off your head. Brainwashed to the brim with Russian propaganda. Putin’s lackey bot.
the fact that you’re making such a big fucking deal about Nazi collaborators and capitalist oppressors being deported to Siberia
And you know that how? From Russian propaganda.
I’ll take the account of people who live right next to russia and have actually lived through the Russian atrocities, over your fucking who-knows-where-from propaganda bullshit.
It’s so fucking hilarious and ironic you saying that Baltic people have been brainwashed with anti-communist propaganda when you are the one brainwashed with Russian propaganda.
Please take a step back and educate yourself. You look pathetic from the outside, living in your crazy little propaganda bubble.
Just look at how unpopular you are on lemmy if you don’t believe me. But of course, according to you everyone here is brainwashed, aren’t they, and you are the only sane person?
This is the same shit as believing Israel, the war criminals, about what they are doing in Palestine over the actual Palestinians suffering at their hands
Go ahead and believe in and praise your heinous USSR over the actual victims of their war crimes. It’s going really well for you, you really must be onto some truth here…
“nUmBeRs ArE eNtIrElY cOnSisTeNt” - poor victim of Russian propaganda.
Deportations started BEFORE the WW2. They were deporting EVERYONE who were “anti-soviet” and naturally, some of them might have been fascist. They were deporting entire classes of people and even entire nationalities!
From 1930 to 1952, the government of the Soviet Union, on the orders of Soviet leader Joseph Stalin and under the direction of the NKVD official Lavrentiy Beria, forcibly transferred populations of various groups. These actions may be classified into the following broad categories: deportations of “anti-Soviet” categories of population (often classified as “enemies of the people”), deportations of entire nationalities, labor force transfer, and organized migrations in opposite directions to fill ethnically cleansed territories. Dekulakization marked the first time that an entire class was deported, whereas the deportation of Soviet Koreans in 1937 marked the precedent of a specific ethnic deportation of an entire nationality.[9]
6 million people. Yep. All must have been fascists and have been given due process to establish that. /s
Again 1.8 million were deported before the WW2.
It has been estimated that, in their entirety, internal forced migrations affected at least 6 million people.[6][10][11][12] Of this total, 1.8 million kulaks were deported in 1930–31, 1.0 million peasants and ethnic minorities in 1932–39, whereas about 3.5 million ethnic minorities were further resettled during 1940–52.[12]
1.5 million people died in atrocious conditions.
Soviet archives documented 390,000[13] deaths during kulak forced resettlement and up to 400,000 deaths of people deported to forced settlements during the 1940s;[14] however, Nicolas Werth places overall deaths closer to some 1 to 1.5 million perishing as a result of the deportations.[6]
They are using the same bullshit propaganda to justify their invasion of Ukraine - “We need to get rid of the Nazis in Ukraine”. Do you believe that too? This is so fucking typical of Russia and you must be blind and deaf to not know that. Any time they want to invade or get rid of someone they just need scream “NAZIS” and you immediately believe them.
Fuck the USSR villains and fuck you for defending these atrocious killers. You have no fucking clue what bullshit your spewing.
You’re comparing the numbers of Estonia (the specific example I brought) to the entire USSR
Yes, I’m taking in ALL of their atrocities into account, not just singling out one country because it fits your narrative.
They did this systematically and deported everyone and anyone speaking out against them. Today they just straight up murder anyone opposing Kremlin. In the past they used them as salves, today they couldn’t get away wiht using deported people as slaves.
Why do you choose the made up number instead of the well-documented soviet archives?
Did Russia ever at all in the whole of history recorded any of their atrocities and war crimes accurately? No, no war criminals document their crimes. They do the opposite. So naive of you to believe they documented any truth about their war crimes.
Nazi collaborationism and spies…
Of course, just like they are cleansing Ukraine from Nazis now. Aren’t they?
You’re pathetic for making excuses for murderers and war criminals and parroting their propaganda. There’s no more hope for you, so I hope you die together with your heinous Russian criminals, before you do too much damage.
You think because you live in Spain, the other end of Europe, you somehow know better what the Baltic people went through during the two Russian occupations than the people actually living there? Grandparents passing down real accounts of atrocities?
Wow. You really are fucking off your head. Brainwashed to the brim with Russian propaganda. Putin’s lackey bot.
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And you know that how? From Russian propaganda.
I’ll take the account of people who live right next to russia and have actually lived through the Russian atrocities, over your fucking who-knows-where-from propaganda bullshit.
It’s so fucking hilarious and ironic you saying that Baltic people have been brainwashed with anti-communist propaganda when you are the one brainwashed with Russian propaganda.
Please take a step back and educate yourself. You look pathetic from the outside, living in your crazy little propaganda bubble.
Just look at how unpopular you are on lemmy if you don’t believe me. But of course, according to you everyone here is brainwashed, aren’t they, and you are the only sane person?
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This is the same shit as believing Israel, the war criminals, about what they are doing in Palestine over the actual Palestinians suffering at their hands
Go ahead and believe in and praise your heinous USSR over the actual victims of their war crimes. It’s going really well for you, you really must be onto some truth here…
Pathetic.
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“nUmBeRs ArE eNtIrElY cOnSisTeNt” - poor victim of Russian propaganda.
Deportations started BEFORE the WW2. They were deporting EVERYONE who were “anti-soviet” and naturally, some of them might have been fascist. They were deporting entire classes of people and even entire nationalities!
6 million people. Yep. All must have been fascists and have been given due process to establish that. /s
Again 1.8 million were deported before the WW2.
1.5 million people died in atrocious conditions.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_transfer_in_the_Soviet_Union
They are using the same bullshit propaganda to justify their invasion of Ukraine - “We need to get rid of the Nazis in Ukraine”. Do you believe that too? This is so fucking typical of Russia and you must be blind and deaf to not know that. Any time they want to invade or get rid of someone they just need scream “NAZIS” and you immediately believe them.
Fuck the USSR villains and fuck you for defending these atrocious killers. You have no fucking clue what bullshit your spewing.
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Yes, I’m taking in ALL of their atrocities into account, not just singling out one country because it fits your narrative.
They did this systematically and deported everyone and anyone speaking out against them. Today they just straight up murder anyone opposing Kremlin. In the past they used them as salves, today they couldn’t get away wiht using deported people as slaves.
Well- documented Soviet archives? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Did Russia ever at all in the whole of history recorded any of their atrocities and war crimes accurately? No, no war criminals document their crimes. They do the opposite. So naive of you to believe they documented any truth about their war crimes.
Of course, just like they are cleansing Ukraine from Nazis now. Aren’t they?
You’re pathetic for making excuses for murderers and war criminals and parroting their propaganda. There’s no more hope for you, so I hope you die together with your heinous Russian criminals, before you do too much damage.