By understanding that the backwards views in most Islamic countries regarding sexuality and gender are caused by western meddling. Had Iran been allowed to thrive under Mosaddeq’s secular leftist government instead of being violently couped by the US + UK, things would look very different there in LGBTQ rights and women’s rights. The same can be said about Egypt under Nasser, about the People’s Liberation Front for Palestine, and is currently said by women from traditionally Islamic countries such as Alexandra Elbakyan from Kazakhstan (founder of SciHub).
Stop blaming on Islam what is caused by western meddling, invasion and coups.
Islam is as backwards as anything can be and it’s whole existence is basically imperialism / authoritarianism, or do you think the universal caliphate is going to be a democracy?
Stop blaming the west for everyone’s fault, other societies are responsible for themselves.
We are talking about history facts, you didn’t know or worse, you ignored two of the biggest colonizing and conquest forces in the history of mankind and now you blame the west for something Islam is the king at.
Here is another history fact: there is no Spanish Empire without the Umayyad or the Ottoman Empire.
The worst thing about this conversation it that you aren’t even Muslim because they are proud of the Umayyad (not so much the Ottomans since they aren’t arabs)
We are talking about the current geopolitical configuration.
The argument presented is that in many Muslim-majority regions and states, the current political configuration is fundamentally a reaction to the imperialism and colonialism of the West.
Your examples are too deep in the past to be strongly relevant as antecedents to the current configuration, and also, fail in their attempt to paint Islam as exceptional.
You literally said no Muslim nation colonized the West which was a blatant lie.
Turkey, a Muslim nation, occupies Greek territory today.
Lebanon was a Christian nation until the 80s although they weren’t exactly conquered
They also tend to invade each other but that goes against your narrative too since you only care about west bad like every western nation has the same interests, although they should have a common interest in fighting islam.
I hope none of you defenders of Islam get to live in a Muslim ruled nation although you all deserve it.
Deeper in the past Muslim-majority states attacked the nearby fringes of the West, but the recent history is the West subduing most of the world as global imperialist hegemon.
It is the global imperialism of the West that directly accounts for reaction taking hold in such colonized regions.
Username checks out. Facha. Spaniard being islamophobic, no surprises here, fucking cursed national myth of reconquista. You can just be open about being a racist Spanish nationalist.
By understanding that the backwards views in most Islamic countries regarding sexuality and gender are caused by western meddling. Had Iran been allowed to thrive under Mosaddeq’s secular leftist government instead of being violently couped by the US + UK, things would look very different there in LGBTQ rights and women’s rights. The same can be said about Egypt under Nasser, about the People’s Liberation Front for Palestine, and is currently said by women from traditionally Islamic countries such as Alexandra Elbakyan from Kazakhstan (founder of SciHub).
Stop blaming on Islam what is caused by western meddling, invasion and coups.
Islam is as backwards as anything can be and it’s whole existence is basically imperialism / authoritarianism, or do you think the universal caliphate is going to be a democracy?
Stop blaming the west for everyone’s fault, other societies are responsible for themselves.
No Muslim-majority state ever colonized the West.
In historical fact, the relation has occurred only in one direction.
Characterizing Islam as imperialist sidesteps the actual argument being presented.
I guess you have never heard about the Umayyad Caliphate or the Ottoman Empire.
Historical fact: slavery is still alive in islamic countries.
Nice pivot.
Western corporations benefit from slave labor. Islam is not exceptional.
We are talking about history facts, you didn’t know or worse, you ignored two of the biggest colonizing and conquest forces in the history of mankind and now you blame the west for something Islam is the king at.
Here is another history fact: there is no Spanish Empire without the Umayyad or the Ottoman Empire.
The worst thing about this conversation it that you aren’t even Muslim because they are proud of the Umayyad (not so much the Ottomans since they aren’t arabs)
We are talking about the current geopolitical configuration.
The argument presented is that in many Muslim-majority regions and states, the current political configuration is fundamentally a reaction to the imperialism and colonialism of the West.
Your examples are too deep in the past to be strongly relevant as antecedents to the current configuration, and also, fail in their attempt to paint Islam as exceptional.
You literally said no Muslim nation colonized the West which was a blatant lie.
Turkey, a Muslim nation, occupies Greek territory today.
Lebanon was a Christian nation until the 80s although they weren’t exactly conquered
They also tend to invade each other but that goes against your narrative too since you only care about west bad like every western nation has the same interests, although they should have a common interest in fighting islam.
I hope none of you defenders of Islam get to live in a Muslim ruled nation although you all deserve it.
Deeper in the past Muslim-majority states attacked the nearby fringes of the West, but the recent history is the West subduing most of the world as global imperialist hegemon.
It is the global imperialism of the West that directly accounts for reaction taking hold in such colonized regions.
Username checks out. Facha. Spaniard being islamophobic, no surprises here, fucking cursed national myth of reconquista. You can just be open about being a racist Spanish nationalist.
Okay, have a nice day. inshallah
it’s means it is.