• SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world
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    6 hours ago

    Yet you specifically went after a particular group that’s consistently marginalized. I might have believed what you’re claiming had you mentioned multiple examples, but you didn’t.

    • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
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      I can mention multiple examples if you like.

      • white pride
      • black pride
      • straight pride
      • trans pride
      • gay pride
      • Chinese pride
      • cis pride

      All are not anything to be proud of in themselves, but only when society makes it take effort to be that.

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        Majority/minority status has a lot to do with it.

        Chinese pride for the country of China? Ethnic nationalism. Chinese pride in a city like Chicago where they’re a small minority - well that’s a different beast entirely. Because again, “pride” is about visibility, it’s the opposite of “shame.” And Shame has been used as a cudgel for a long time - on minorities, not on majorities, despite white people’s persecution complex.

        Swap the word “pride” for “visibility” and your argument is dead.

        Queer visibility ≠ ethnic nationalism.