• TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
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    5 hours ago

    I can mention multiple examples if you like.

    • white pride
    • black pride
    • straight pride
    • trans pride
    • gay pride
    • Chinese pride
    • cis pride

    All are not anything to be proud of in themselves, but only when society makes it take effort to be that.

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      4 hours ago

      Majority/minority status has a lot to do with it.

      Chinese pride for the country of China? Ethnic nationalism. Chinese pride in a city like Chicago where they’re a small minority - well that’s a different beast entirely. Because again, “pride” is about visibility, it’s the opposite of “shame.” And Shame has been used as a cudgel for a long time - on minorities, not on majorities, despite white people’s persecution complex.

      Swap the word “pride” for “visibility” and your argument is dead.

      Queer visibility ≠ ethnic nationalism.