• oddsbodkins@midwest.social
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    11 months ago

    Training is training regardless of how you receive it isn’t it? Perhaps you should take your own advice.

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        11 months ago

        Said someone who’s never mastered it. I have a college education myself. And work in IT. I’m just not that much of an egoist to disrespect people like you do. I’ve met truly skilled and great people doing menial jobs and not being compensated enough. You wouldn’t last a week at most of these jobs. You feel you could master in an afternoon. Simply because you’d be dealing with people like yourself.

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          11 months ago

          No one is claiming that it’s not possible to hone your floorsweeping skills over the course of 50 years and become a sweeper yoda. What they are saying though, is that the difference between the yoda and the apprentice is neglibile from a customers perspective. That’s just factual, if the apprentice wasn’t good enough for the average client, the yodas would be in high demand and be able to set their own rates, thus becoming skilled labor.

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            11 months ago

            How can they set their own rates when the company makes that decision?

            Even highly skilled jobs have pay controlled by the company. There are those who can set their rates, but most are at the mercy of their employer’s decisions.

            A teacher is a highly skilled job and gets insufficient pay. They can’t set their own rates and get poor pay even though they are critical for the continuation of society.

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          11 months ago

          I don’t know why you think calling something an unskilled job is more derogatory than a menial job.

          But can anyone learn your job in an afternoon? No.

          You can replace a factory line worker with literally almost any human, you can’t be replaced by anyone who doesn’t have a background in IT, at least without months or years of training.

          That’s not ego it’s just reality.

          It doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a living wage. But if you’re gushing about how everyone is a skilled laborer while talking to someone who makes 1/10th what you do they’re probably going to think you’re a dick.