I don’t think voting for or not voting for Trump would have made any difference. Trump is a billonare and your uncle or dad or mom or whatever would probably become homeless if they were hit by a car. So it doesn’t actually matter if you deprogram them.
Secondly I think your uncle or dad or mom is probably just an asshole and isn’t in a cult or brainwashed. This is just the new thing they’re being an asshole about, because it gives them a lot of emotional gratification and it’s popular. I’ve got a relative who believes every doomsday conspiracy based on which one is trending. I think it’s like that. If I deprogrammed him from one conspiracy, he’d move onto another. If it’s not the poles shifting, it’s nuclear winter, etc, weirdly never climate change.
But yeah. I think these ‘brainwashed’ people are just people who enjoy being insufferable and if they were given a different type of reinforcement, they’d just be insufferable in a Leftist space too. They’d be the type of person who doxes teenage girls on twitter because they think a white girl learning spanish for school is cultural appropriation or whatever. How about these people are just douchebags? That’s what I try to do when I shame them for this stuff, I try to make it about how they’re being a douchebag and an attentionwhore generally, about how they’re giving the same energy as the ex alcholic or ex con who needs to keep mentioning Jesus. At a certain point even if youre a follower of Jesus you get sick of hearing about how this ex addict is morally superior for worshipping the diety that the majority of Americans also worship, but because they always deflect onto Jesus, its hard to criticize the behavior, so you’ve got to be specific about what they’re actually doing.
Jesus isn’t real and your vote doesn’t matter, so deprogramming them from the totally meaningless belief isn’t really the issue, the issue is that the behavior is unacceptable and disruptive.
Didn’t the electorial college elect Trump in 2016? I remember them saying that we needed a “strong Republican leader” due to the times or some bullshit, I don’t remember.
What civic process has immediately stopped fascism within that timeframe in the past?
Violence is necessary to snuff out fascism. However, that does not imply that you cannot continue engaging in the civic process while expunging fascism. In fact, it’s necessary.
I’m sorry you can’t walk and chew gum at the same time but some of us are a bit more capable, it seems.
There wasn’t a civic process that defeated Hitler. There was a World War. The German people didn’t defeat Hitler. Defeating Hitler required outside intervention on a massive scale, the kind of intervention that the average person is literally incapable of alone or with a small group.
If fascism is removed from America, it will probably be accomplished by the US military or by outside intervention. Probably won’t be citizens.
You seem to be incapable of understanding that the answer is both. Be an engaged citizen such that fascism has difficulty taking root and if or when it does then do not, for a moment, hesitate in expunging it with both direct and indirect violence. Or, more simply, vote you fucking idiot but when you need to kill nazis you gotta do the dirty work.
This is the walk and chew gum analogy you had trouble interpreting.
“Be an engaged citizen so that fascism has difficulty taking root.” So, go back in time to the Mayflower? Or just go back in time to the 1980s, where our modern version of fascism began formalizing? This has been going on for many decades, how far back do you need to go?
“Vote you fucking idiot” our votes for President do not matter and can be overruled by the Electoral College. Trump didn’t win the popular vote in 2016 if I remember correctly. Addtionally, votes are counted using rigged voting machines.
I don’t think voting for or not voting for Trump would have made any difference. Trump is a billonare and your uncle or dad or mom or whatever would probably become homeless if they were hit by a car. So it doesn’t actually matter if you deprogram them.
Secondly I think your uncle or dad or mom is probably just an asshole and isn’t in a cult or brainwashed. This is just the new thing they’re being an asshole about, because it gives them a lot of emotional gratification and it’s popular. I’ve got a relative who believes every doomsday conspiracy based on which one is trending. I think it’s like that. If I deprogrammed him from one conspiracy, he’d move onto another. If it’s not the poles shifting, it’s nuclear winter, etc, weirdly never climate change.
But yeah. I think these ‘brainwashed’ people are just people who enjoy being insufferable and if they were given a different type of reinforcement, they’d just be insufferable in a Leftist space too. They’d be the type of person who doxes teenage girls on twitter because they think a white girl learning spanish for school is cultural appropriation or whatever. How about these people are just douchebags? That’s what I try to do when I shame them for this stuff, I try to make it about how they’re being a douchebag and an attentionwhore generally, about how they’re giving the same energy as the ex alcholic or ex con who needs to keep mentioning Jesus. At a certain point even if youre a follower of Jesus you get sick of hearing about how this ex addict is morally superior for worshipping the diety that the majority of Americans also worship, but because they always deflect onto Jesus, its hard to criticize the behavior, so you’ve got to be specific about what they’re actually doing.
Jesus isn’t real and your vote doesn’t matter, so deprogramming them from the totally meaningless belief isn’t really the issue, the issue is that the behavior is unacceptable and disruptive.
The fact that the system is rigged does not mean that voting doesn’t matter, I would say. Apart from that, yes well said, and spot on.
Didn’t the electorial college elect Trump in 2016? I remember them saying that we needed a “strong Republican leader” due to the times or some bullshit, I don’t remember.
A 15 day old account spreading bullshit about disengaging from the civic process? Color me shocked!
What civic process do you think would immediately stop fascism within the timeframe of less than five years?
What civic process has immediately stopped fascism within that timeframe in the past? Violence is necessary to snuff out fascism. However, that does not imply that you cannot continue engaging in the civic process while expunging fascism. In fact, it’s necessary.
I’m sorry you can’t walk and chew gum at the same time but some of us are a bit more capable, it seems.
There wasn’t a civic process that defeated Hitler. There was a World War. The German people didn’t defeat Hitler. Defeating Hitler required outside intervention on a massive scale, the kind of intervention that the average person is literally incapable of alone or with a small group.
If fascism is removed from America, it will probably be accomplished by the US military or by outside intervention. Probably won’t be citizens.
You seem to be incapable of understanding that the answer is both. Be an engaged citizen such that fascism has difficulty taking root and if or when it does then do not, for a moment, hesitate in expunging it with both direct and indirect violence. Or, more simply, vote you fucking idiot but when you need to kill nazis you gotta do the dirty work.
This is the walk and chew gum analogy you had trouble interpreting.
“Be an engaged citizen so that fascism has difficulty taking root.” So, go back in time to the Mayflower? Or just go back in time to the 1980s, where our modern version of fascism began formalizing? This has been going on for many decades, how far back do you need to go?
“Vote you fucking idiot” our votes for President do not matter and can be overruled by the Electoral College. Trump didn’t win the popular vote in 2016 if I remember correctly. Addtionally, votes are counted using rigged voting machines.