Or there isn’t actually damning evidence of Bill raping children. His whole scandal and impeachment was about a voluntary blowjob from a consenting adult.
It could also be that he doesn’t think it will actually be released and is playing the odds.
To be fair, Lewinsky has come around to saying the power imbalance was too high for her to have meaningfully consented, and I’ve been thinking that since I was a kid in the 90s. But yeah, she was in her early 20s, still young but not a child
I mean, I understand the imbalance of power dynamic, but you’ve also hit on a strong point that she was in her early 20s. We shouldn’t infantilise adults by assuming that they don’t have the power to enforce consent when they’re fully cognisant of the gravity, nature and consequences of sexual activities that they engage in. If that’s the case, then we need to raise the age of consent to at least 25.
That too, just the fact that he said go for it instead of pulling every stunt possible to hide things is a fine start for me. As I recall it the impeachment was officially for lying about it to congress, but they would have taken any reason to cast stones at the guy.
Fun fact, despite the GOP claiming to be that party of fiscal responsibility, Clinton was the last president to actually have a balanced budget. Add in now that they’re trying to use Clinton as a scapegoat while claiming ‘part of morality’ while the guy in office has been accused multiple times, caught on tape ‘grab em by’, and those are even before the current files.
It’s almost like they’ve been talking out their ass for decades.
It could also be that he doesn’t think it will actually be released and is playing the odds.
Who would be so charitable and risk last years with the stress and ruined legacy just to attack someone who did the same thing.
The fact that all trump published was just pictures from public events that were already known (one (where there also was Michael Jackson) wasn’t even related to Epstein) tells me there’s not much on Clinton there, because if there was I’m sure he would release something fat at this point.
We are on the same page here. Anyone involved in this is corrupted or in unlikely case they aren’t, there’s plenty of material to corrupt them.
Even if we ignore (yeah I know) the horrible crimes against those kids, those people never represent interests of the people, because with such blackmail material they will belong to whomever has it.
It doesn’t matter what party they are. This is another big reason why I support releasing all files and don’t have problem with “sacrificing” Democrats if there any.
Actually trump convinced me that perhaps Clinton wasn’t involved.
Yeah, Clinton definitively is a serial adulterer, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he is a pedo.
trump started investigation and this release was clearly tuned to attack Clinton. If there was something powerful on Clinton, why didn’t he released it? All really is there, are pictures from public events (fundraisers) that are already well known and even ones that has nothing to do with Epstein, but somehow got there.
Clinton since he was president has secret service following him, so even if he had intention to use Epstein’s services it would be kind of tough. He did attend fundraisers though, but Epstein also was known to be generous with donations.
Having said that, if Clinton really was involved, then fuck him, I want him in jail, but all I’m trying to say is that trump is now convincing me he probably wasn’t.
If there was something powerful on Clinton, why didn’t he released it?
It could also be that Trump is likely to face the same punishment Bubba does. If they hang Bubba in a public execution for diddling kids, meanwhile Trump knows he’s in the same files doing the same thing, well…
Seems the least likely though, because they typically don’t have that much foresight.
Let me repeat that in case the people in the back didn’t catch it. The people currently running our country don’t have the foresight to act two steps ahead.
Actually after writing this I learned that Clinton requested all documents about himself. That IMO further backs that this isn’t some kind of Kamikaze move to destroy trump, not it isn’t a 4D chess move counting trump won’t do it and that he is simply convinced there’s nothing incriminating about him in the files.
I don’t hold any special sympathy for Clinton and if he did those things I’m all for him dying in jail, but if there was something juicy about Clinton I think trump would already use it instead manufacturing evidence (like apparently the picture with him and MJ was an event not connected to Epstein).
Yeah, I’m starting to come around to this idea. He’d already gotten in enough trouble with his dick as governor. It’s likely he just knew better by the time he got involved with Epstein.
But of course everyone still wants the campaign cash.
Someone willing to put themselves up as a sacrifice to prevent the full collapse of the nation. If only it where more common.
Or there isn’t actually damning evidence of Bill raping children. His whole scandal and impeachment was about a voluntary blowjob from a consenting adult.
It could also be that he doesn’t think it will actually be released and is playing the odds.
To be fair, Lewinsky has come around to saying the power imbalance was too high for her to have meaningfully consented, and I’ve been thinking that since I was a kid in the 90s. But yeah, she was in her early 20s, still young but not a child
I mean, I understand the imbalance of power dynamic, but you’ve also hit on a strong point that she was in her early 20s. We shouldn’t infantilise adults by assuming that they don’t have the power to enforce consent when they’re fully cognisant of the gravity, nature and consequences of sexual activities that they engage in. If that’s the case, then we need to raise the age of consent to at least 25.
That too, just the fact that he said go for it instead of pulling every stunt possible to hide things is a fine start for me. As I recall it the impeachment was officially for lying about it to congress, but they would have taken any reason to cast stones at the guy.
Fun fact, despite the GOP claiming to be that party of fiscal responsibility, Clinton was the last president to actually have a balanced budget. Add in now that they’re trying to use Clinton as a scapegoat while claiming ‘part of morality’ while the guy in office has been accused multiple times, caught on tape ‘grab em by’, and those are even before the current files.
It’s almost like they’ve been talking out their ass for decades.
If there is any evidence the only chance he has to go down with a little less shit on his persona is by owning up and being that sacrifice.
But yeah, I have kinda always felt like he was an easy “you know this guy was in on it” target because of the BJ
Who would be so charitable and risk last years with the stress and ruined legacy just to attack someone who did the same thing.
The fact that all trump published was just pictures from public events that were already known (one (where there also was Michael Jackson) wasn’t even related to Epstein) tells me there’s not much on Clinton there, because if there was I’m sure he would release something fat at this point.
Let’s be totally honest here, if it turns out Bill is a pedophile, he should be prosecuted and thrown in prison like anyone else.
Good to sacrifice him to save the country, but no pedophiles are food people, and none should be given any mercy.
We are on the same page here. Anyone involved in this is corrupted or in unlikely case they aren’t, there’s plenty of material to corrupt them.
Even if we ignore (yeah I know) the horrible crimes against those kids, those people never represent interests of the people, because with such blackmail material they will belong to whomever has it.
It doesn’t matter what party they are. This is another big reason why I support releasing all files and don’t have problem with “sacrificing” Democrats if there any.
Actually trump convinced me that perhaps Clinton wasn’t involved.
Yeah, Clinton definitively is a serial adulterer, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he is a pedo.
trump started investigation and this release was clearly tuned to attack Clinton. If there was something powerful on Clinton, why didn’t he released it? All really is there, are pictures from public events (fundraisers) that are already well known and even ones that has nothing to do with Epstein, but somehow got there.
Clinton since he was president has secret service following him, so even if he had intention to use Epstein’s services it would be kind of tough. He did attend fundraisers though, but Epstein also was known to be generous with donations.
Having said that, if Clinton really was involved, then fuck him, I want him in jail, but all I’m trying to say is that trump is now convincing me he probably wasn’t.
It could also be that Trump is likely to face the same punishment Bubba does. If they hang Bubba in a public execution for diddling kids, meanwhile Trump knows he’s in the same files doing the same thing, well…
Seems the least likely though, because they typically don’t have that much foresight.
Let me repeat that in case the people in the back didn’t catch it. The people currently running our country don’t have the foresight to act two steps ahead.
Actually after writing this I learned that Clinton requested all documents about himself. That IMO further backs that this isn’t some kind of Kamikaze move to destroy trump, not it isn’t a 4D chess move counting trump won’t do it and that he is simply convinced there’s nothing incriminating about him in the files.
I don’t hold any special sympathy for Clinton and if he did those things I’m all for him dying in jail, but if there was something juicy about Clinton I think trump would already use it instead manufacturing evidence (like apparently the picture with him and MJ was an event not connected to Epstein).
Yeah, I’m starting to come around to this idea. He’d already gotten in enough trouble with his dick as governor. It’s likely he just knew better by the time he got involved with Epstein.
But of course everyone still wants the campaign cash.