• ElHexo [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    That article is amazing

    More than 3,000 civilians were killed as a result of the war in Donbas (2014–2022), but there is no evidence to support the claim that Ukraine committed the genocide of Russian-speaking people or ethnic Russians in Ukraine.[8] Before Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the intensity of the hostilities in the Donbas had been steadily declining since the signing of the Minsk agreements in February 2015.[9] For example, according to Ukrainian authorities, 50 Ukrainian soldiers were killed in clashes with Donbas separatists in 2020.

    • civilians have died in Donbas but it’s not the Ukraine government
    • things have been getting better since the Minsk agreements (no numbers)
    • for example, [only] 50 Ukrainian government soldiers died in 2020
    • o_d [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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      That’s hilarious. What should happen after signing an agreement is that the violence should stop! Gtfo with this things were getting better but we won’t provide any evidence to back this claim up bullshit.

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        1 year ago

        Reminds me of how ingrained the presupposed eternal nature of this imperialist hell is into things like statistical analyses of police violence.

        For instance, I once had a guy in college (who is now a professional Republican lobbyist) tell me that there was indeed a racial problem behind police violence in the U.S.! The racial disparity between how many white folk and how many black folk were getting killed, he agreed, was appalling. He said, however, that over time that disparity was shrinking, and officer-involved fatalities were reaching “equitable levels between whites and blacks!”, so we’re actually on the fast track to progress, not regress.

        The disparity was shrinking. Not the actual amount of murders.

        The wanton and brutal murders committed by police are not the primary issue, they say, the opaquely racial disparity between who is being murdered is.

        A game of images. A perfectly logical conclusion to this train of thought is that police should simply murder more white people to prove that racism is over, to make state-sanctioned violence more equitable. Murder, but be inclusive about it!

        This is the presentation of the issue by those who acknowledge that there even exists a racial problem. There are plenty who outright deny its existence and still more who celebrate it. Politicians who claim to oppose police violence (especially the phenotypically-motivated kind) will nevertheless be found supporting legislation that further militarizes the police. This is how Amerika does politics… never harm reduction, only harm redistribution - at best.