Boiling lobsters while they are alive and conscious will be banned as part of a government strategy to improve animal welfare in England.

Government ministers say that “live boiling is not an acceptable killing method” for crustaceans and alternative guidance will be published.

The practice is already illegal in Switzerland, Norway and New Zealand. Animal welfare charities say that stunning lobsters with an electric gun or chilling them in cold air or ice before boiling them is more humane.

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    Yes.

    Start with prohibiting animal farming, then ban animal murder alltogether.

    It is the only solution, it is not actually that difficult, and it is an inevitable outcome of human development.

    In a few centuries, humans will look at today’s animal explotation the same way we look at cannibalism and slavery.

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      Start with prohibiting animal farming, then ban animal murder alltogether

      What do you do with livestock animals that make up 62% of all mammals on Earth?

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      Start with prohibiting animal farming, then ban animal murder alltogether.

      That certainly would be an interesting civil war.

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        It doesn’t even require a war.

        Meat is heavily subsidized and benefits from economies of scale. Once enough people stop eating meat on their own, more people will follow suit because it will be too expensive.

        It’s one of the big reasons why there’s such a huge cultural resistance to veganism. Meat abstinence will make meat more expensive for the ones who keep eating it, and of course cut into the profits of the shitty companies making it.

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      In a few centuries, humans will look at today’s animal explotation the same way we look at cannibalism and slavery.

      some already do, but most people who have heard this argument are not convinced of it, so I doubt this is how things will turn out

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      I really don’t think we’ll ever stop eating animals. We’ve been doing it for hundreds of thousands of years, it’s practically part of our DNA. Why would we stop now? Vegans haven’t made a lot of progress convincing people, that’s for sure

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        8 hours ago

        presumably there will be more suitable protein sources when space travel becomes a thing

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        We’ve done a lot of other awful things since forever: forced child “marriages” (or just sexual abuse before then), child exploitation, some form of slavery, have all been a thing for millenia. And yet many societies now frown upon those, punish the perpetrators and help the victims.

        What makes you think this (or other awful shit we still do) will be any different?

        All those actions are no more or less “in our DNA” then meat consumption.

        And, well, vegans have convinced some non-trivial amount of people, as you can deduce by the fact that many companies put “vegan” stickers on their products, because they think it will increase their profits.

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          example, violence for entertainment. yes we’ve majorly turned against that which is good. child marriage, also good we got rid of that.

          meat for food though, that is in our biology. our bodies need the nutrients that come from meat. we are biologically omnivores. yeah we can try to supplant that, but it’s through an artificial means.

          I’m all for it, but i don’t think it’s going to be frowned upon in the future and i don’t think all humans can switch over to a plant based diet tomorrow. vegans are too much caught up in themselves to think of the practicality.