Whatever, keep telling yourself it’s bug free and keep living in your fairy-tale.
This isn’t a concern of what might be or hearsay, it is buggy.
I’ll try and record it, if it doesn’t crash of course. There’s things I know that will crash with certainty so I avoid these actions which is pretty damn annoying. These didn’t occur on gnome x11 because I do this often, I had no such issues there, so it’s not vibes.
Stop spreading your wishful thinking as facts and sugarcoating things for whatever reason.
Congratulations. Your system is bug free. I just sat my system down and told them about yours and they promised to try harder.
What am I even supposed to do with that? You’re one of those guys working at an internal helpdesk replying “it works on my machine” and closing tickets.
You made a claim that Wayland is buggy when streaming and gaming. I told you I do both of these daily with Wayland.
What an intelligent person would do is recognize that they misunderstood the problem and that it was their particular setup, skills, or ability that caused the issues, not Wayland itself.
Expectedly, you realized it was a “you” issue enough to get mad, but not hold yourself accountable and admit Wayland was a red herring. Par for course based on the original claim.
What kind of “skill” or “me” issue is there with bugs? I make the windows flicker by sheer lack of skill? The Steam or Firefox windows stop updating because I have a “particular setup”? Those are bugs. I did not have these issues on Gnome X11.
Just stop and think a little.
edit: here is another anecdote from today. My son has different hardware than me, but also runs Gnome Wayland. He had an issue with his microphone in a game, it kept feeding into itself. So I alt-tabbed to check if the source that was active was the monitor of the microphone, since we were messing with easy effects earlier, and it was indeed still on monitor. I turned the monitor setting off and went back into the game. Now we had no mic input. No problem, let’s check again, we probably forgot to change the source from the monitor to the actual microphone. Alt-tab did nothing, Windows/Super key did nothing. He didn’t want to quit the game, so he continued as it was. Must be another skill issue, not being able to alt-tab or bring up the overview with the super key after doing it once. I still am going to pin this on “gaming using Gnome Wayland is buggy”.
Edit2: waaaiit, it just clicked. You’re one of those pedantic people. It’s not a “Wayland, the protocol”, issue, it’s a “Wayland implementation in gnome in combination with my hardware and selection of games and streaming software issue”! I hope that makes more sense. Sorry, I thought I could simplify it by the way I may have said it, I’m sure everyone else understood what I meant.
Based on what you’re saying, I don’t feel like you know enough about the subject matter to be forming such strong opinions.
You have no idea what went wrong yet seem confident what made things break. You are, simply put, hopelessly clueless, as evidenced by how you arbitrarily combine distros, desktops, and window managers when describing your issues. A more astute user would account for such obvious variables before jumping to conclusions.
Wayland is not responsible for the issues you’re describing. You’re just woefully stubborn and unwilling to be wrong. It’s fucking embarrassing and if you weren’t completely mentally spent, you would feel shame.
Whatever, keep telling yourself it’s bug free and keep living in your fairy-tale.
This isn’t a concern of what might be or hearsay, it is buggy.
I’ll try and record it, if it doesn’t crash of course. There’s things I know that will crash with certainty so I avoid these actions which is pretty damn annoying. These didn’t occur on gnome x11 because I do this often, I had no such issues there, so it’s not vibes.
Stop spreading your wishful thinking as facts and sugarcoating things for whatever reason.
I stream gaming to Twitch almost every day from Wayland and used to do it from X11, so cut the bullshit about fairy tales.
What you are describing is a skill issue based on vibes. You can’t even be bothered to cite a real problem. Give me a break.
Learn to read, this was in my first post.
Ignoring the first part of my reply where I tell you I stream and game from Wayland is certainly one way to remain ignorant.
Congratulations. Your system is bug free. I just sat my system down and told them about yours and they promised to try harder.
What am I even supposed to do with that? You’re one of those guys working at an internal helpdesk replying “it works on my machine” and closing tickets.
You made a claim that Wayland is buggy when streaming and gaming. I told you I do both of these daily with Wayland.
What an intelligent person would do is recognize that they misunderstood the problem and that it was their particular setup, skills, or ability that caused the issues, not Wayland itself.
Expectedly, you realized it was a “you” issue enough to get mad, but not hold yourself accountable and admit Wayland was a red herring. Par for course based on the original claim.
What kind of “skill” or “me” issue is there with bugs? I make the windows flicker by sheer lack of skill? The Steam or Firefox windows stop updating because I have a “particular setup”? Those are bugs. I did not have these issues on Gnome X11.
Just stop and think a little.
edit: here is another anecdote from today. My son has different hardware than me, but also runs Gnome Wayland. He had an issue with his microphone in a game, it kept feeding into itself. So I alt-tabbed to check if the source that was active was the monitor of the microphone, since we were messing with easy effects earlier, and it was indeed still on monitor. I turned the monitor setting off and went back into the game. Now we had no mic input. No problem, let’s check again, we probably forgot to change the source from the monitor to the actual microphone. Alt-tab did nothing, Windows/Super key did nothing. He didn’t want to quit the game, so he continued as it was. Must be another skill issue, not being able to alt-tab or bring up the overview with the super key after doing it once. I still am going to pin this on “gaming using Gnome Wayland is buggy”.
Edit2: waaaiit, it just clicked. You’re one of those pedantic people. It’s not a “Wayland, the protocol”, issue, it’s a “Wayland implementation in gnome in combination with my hardware and selection of games and streaming software issue”! I hope that makes more sense. Sorry, I thought I could simplify it by the way I may have said it, I’m sure everyone else understood what I meant.
Based on what you’re saying, I don’t feel like you know enough about the subject matter to be forming such strong opinions.
You have no idea what went wrong yet seem confident what made things break. You are, simply put, hopelessly clueless, as evidenced by how you arbitrarily combine distros, desktops, and window managers when describing your issues. A more astute user would account for such obvious variables before jumping to conclusions.
Wayland is not responsible for the issues you’re describing. You’re just woefully stubborn and unwilling to be wrong. It’s fucking embarrassing and if you weren’t completely mentally spent, you would feel shame.