• menas@lemmy.wtf
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    8 days ago

    Where do that money come from

    In Norway, Healthcare is fund with the Government Pension Fund. Its an investment of petrolum benefits, but nowadays, its wealth is mainly due to speculation. In short, people in Norway benefits of the capitalist exploitation elsewhere.

    From an international perspective, it does lower the wealth of workers anywhere but in Norway.

    On the other side, in france healthcare was only funds by the workers, and does not participate in imperialism. It’s maybe why the french state is so direct for securing its economics interests. Capitalism is note one issue, it is many issues

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      8 days ago

      France may not participate directly in imperialism these days, but it sure as hell has neocolonial and exploitative structures in place. E.g. see this Jacobin article.

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        Maybe I was confuse, sorry : the French is an imperialist state, directly and violently. The french army never leave the Africa, from special operation to another. Politics from African countries are so close to the french one, that a lot of them have a flat in Paris, and were in the same school. Until they disagree, and then “their plane crashed” or the small armed group of their country suddenly got a lot of ressources and make the regime fall. This sort of things happen many times, but some specific example have to be known :

        • A several month strike of workers in Tchad have failed because the french state send billions to the Tchad state; at the same time in france, the retirement pensions were questioned because billions where missing to fund it
        • Ore firm couldn’t begin it’s exploitation in Tchad because of the mobilization of the people. An airstrike killed them. Hundreds died. French army is the only known air force in the area.
        • Fascists in the french army make children say nazis salute or slogans. In centrafrica, they participate in child prostitution
        • An airstrike killed hundreds of people during a wedding in the barkan operation area.
        • Egyptians targeting smuggler (allegedly) have been possible thanks to the surveillance of their Eastern borders by the french military intelligence

        A lot of things will be discovered in the futur, like it was for the implication of the french state in the Genocide in Rwanda, or for the war in Libya (in order to kill the dictator that fund the campaign of the president of that time). Those things have an impact elsewhere. Military involve in “corruption” in Tchad now work for bosses in france order to watch workers mobilization ( see the movie “Merci Patron”), or people in the intelligence service involved in africa, could then be send in Kanaky (Nouvelle Calédonie) to scam separatists. It’s not a surprise that soldiers imply in regular murders, get out from theirs barracks to smash people that riots against the murder by b policeman (Nahel riots).

        I know that a lot of countries feel that france did not fall under far right gouvernent. The truth is that the macron government has a lot of far right policy on a lot topics, and that the social organization of a colonialist (not neo) state worsen those policy. Not only the French state is directly imperialist, but that imperialism turn to fascism