Context: PugJesus often spams low quality posts across the dozen or so communities they mod, apparently downvoting low effort spam on my frontpage is trolling. The only other action in the modlog is a different ban for 74 years for “Mass downvoting innocuous content,” so it definitely seems they are just banning people that dislike their spam. Glad we’re not missing out on the reddit mod experience here.
I think it’s perfectly reasonable to think that a user who never posts or comments on a community, but instead chooses to just bulk downvote content has no real interest in the community and therefore can be justifiably banned if the community moderator deems their downvoting damaging.
In all cases, by the way, the accounts I did ban also had a mod-log of history of doing it elsewhere. They were just downvote accounts.
If that was true why did you come to this thread in the first place. No dude, you came in hard trying to justify banning random people based on your feeling. Yes downvote accounts should be banned but they aren’t really relevant to the discussion other than you trying to frame normal people as them.
To give my opinion. Why are you still here?
They aren’t banned randomly. I’ve told you why they get banned. We’re talking about accounts that downvote a lot of posts within a community.
They weren’t “normal people” in this context. Each account I banned were accounts that had a long history over the platform of mass-downvoting many communities and being banned from many other communities from doing so. As I said, some of them didn’t even seem to use the platform to post or comment. All they did was downvote. You’re berating me for responding like this to habitual community downvoters, when it’s clear that it’s a normality on the platform to begin with. Most communities will respond negatively to this. Users coming into a community to just downvote lots of posts has always been frowned on.
As for “framing them” - why would I ban accounts on that reason who didn’t really do that?
Are you under the impression I engaged with you first? You saw this thread, saw my comment, felt challenged then decided to try justify your actions and you want to have a cry about being replied to? If you feel I am berating you stop replying to me and I’ll stop responding take some fucking responsibility jackass. You have been all over the place with denying your own words, making up poor excuses then not understanding what an excuse is, constantly changing goal posts to justify your poor actions it’s just non fucking stop with you isn’t it. You have no integrity you could at the very least apologize for very weirdly attempting to deny your own words. I mean that was just weird yea hindsight 20/20 you are just a dumb person but you could still apologized for it. You know the difference between right and wrong, right?
Well sure, I initially replied to your comments in the thread about downvoting to provide wider context to why community mods sometimes ban people for downvoting. Because the cumulative impact of repeat downvoters is to negatively impact the spread of content from a community, weakening the ability for the moderators to grow it.
I didn’t feel personally challenged on this point.
Are you back to throwing insults again? Do I need to point out the rules of the community to you?
And you reply to me, and I’ll reply back if I have something else to say. I’ve always operated like this. My point about berating here is that banning for repeat downvoting is a normal fediverse practice done by a lot of moderators. You’re pissing in the wind complaining about this.
I’ve given explanations. I don’t consider an explanation the same as an excuse. I’m not bound by your semantics.
I missed what I said initially in my opening post to you because it was an old copy and paste from myself that I bring out on this issue. In any case, are you really hung up on this? Whether or not I think they are “trolls” or not doesn’t change the fact that I would ban mass-downvoters all the same.
I don’t see any reason to apologise to someone currently hurling insults at me. Especially when I didn’t insult you in the first place. You’re hung up over a descriptor.
ahaha you did think that
personally?
Wow you operate in such a way where you reply to people who reply to you?
It isn’t my semantics it’s the part of the language we are speaking. It’s uhm not really up for interpretation either. I think it would help if you understood that just because it is an excuse, doesn’t inherently make it wrong. What makes it an excuse it is an explanation or justification which moves responsibility from one thing to something else. That should help you.
FTFY
You didn’t apologize before I hurled descriptors at you. I mean it wouldn’t make a difference now I had to tell you that it was the right thing to do. That fact that you never thought of doing the right thing is what matters here. Actually you keep trying to double down and dismiss it rather than just bite the bullet. Hung up? Judging you based on your actions buddy.
Whether or not downvoting in bulk is “trolling” or not, or is seen as that doesn’t change that I would ban people for doing it on communities that I run. It is a descriptor that changes nothing here.
I don’t see at all why it is wrong to choose to ban a user who only interacts with your community by downvoting lots of posts.