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      4 days ago

      Yea, I do. We’re not at a civil war yet and people are waking up to the fascist lies and trying to turn the ship around. Can’t exactly say that for russia, which the majority of support the war in Ukraine still.

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        Well - from the outside it certainly doesn’t look united anymore. And your comparison does not make sense. Russia neither has a civil war ongoing for now, nor are the average citizens discernibly any less or any more brainwashed than in the divided states.

        And from a European perspective, both are threatening our continent & freedoms.

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          4 days ago

          We’re still able to call out our politicians and protest without falling out of a window or being meat fodder for an invasion.

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            That is no longer true for many people. Just that they don’t fall out a window, they get murdered by rabid pedo-criminal supporters, or shot by “police” or deported by ICE. And being meat fodder for invasions has been the fate of many people from low income sectors for decades. Only that the divided states have mostly focused on invading countries who could not fight back.

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              3 days ago

              Compared to china/russia/NK it’s %100 true. I can still protest, and do. Stop acting like the USA has lost everything just because we have a clown show going on.

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                Only a Sith deals in absolutes. If you think 100% anything is a thing in state forms, you are very gullible. I am not acting like the divided states shithole regime has anything, I am observing what is happening. Even in Western Europe, protestors suffer from police violence - in the divided states, more often than not, such violence is lethal.

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                  3 days ago

                  That’s happened throughout history, but it never was a tiananmen square level event. So let’s stop trying to compare the USA/EU to russia and china on freedom of protest or anything else. We can still protest without worrying about having the military run us over with tanks.

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                    You are delusional if you think that people in the divided states are significantly more free than they are in Russia or China. But that just shows the media brainwashing is working well. Our (I intentionally include Europe here) crimes against humanity are just committed elsewhere and reported upon differently. Thinking we are better off is us functioning “as intended” so we don’t actually do something about it.