The Senate has rejected legislation to extend Affordable Care Act tax credits, essentially guaranteeing that millions of Americans will see a steep rise in costs at the beginning of the year.
And if it never comes back, they will need to find alternative means of acquiring food. Maybe their state decides to go “fuck it” and replaces SNAP outright despite what the feds say. Or maybe there’s a grassroots movement that creates a new SNAP.
The important thing is, the longer the shutdown goes on, the less people will depend on the Trump regime to satisfy their needs.
I think the thing that people like you don’t realize is that government shutdowns almost never lead to legislation changes. It is basically just a political gesture that is meant to move public opinion only.
Dems maintained positive public opinion for a while, but it wasn’t going to last forever. Republicans were not going to cave on the issue, and after the longest shutdown in history, it’s possible their internal polling showed public opinion was starting to sour.
Your opinion (and a lot of others in this community) is to keep the government shut down forever and magically that’ll lead to all your legislations getting passed and nobody will be harmed by this shutdown and only republicans are viewed negatively. It’s a great fantasy, but in the real world, you don’t get everything, especially when you are not in control.
What I see here is the Republican Party voted to get rid of these subsidies, and you guys just want to blame Democrats because they didn’t want to shoot themselves in the foot on top of being smothered by the party in power.
And there’s no way for us to know if democrats were on the verge of over playing their hand. I would bet the party had internal polling that told them it was the right time to end the shutdown.
It’s also worth noting that many of the democrats that wanted to cave also cared about the people being harmed by the shutdown. Real people.
People on here do not care because, just like that other commenter, the shutdown served their best interests, so who cares. Well there are congress people that do care.
So your friends are Republicans and you think the Dems did the right thing backing down on healthcare subsidies? Sounds like you are your Republican friends bud
You’re turned around here bro, we all wanted the shutdown to continue so we could continue to have affordable healthcare, we wanted it for everyone, the wording above is throwing you because it’s one person saying that the shutdown was something that could have benefitted them, but it’s not a matter of selfishness, it’s literally a broad, life-saving program. (The ACA tax subsidies.)
If you were against the shuttdown… well it must be nice to afford premium healthcare or be on someone else’s policy.
You’re being deliberately obtuse then. Participating in bad faith, just looking for someone to call “republican” to stir up drama. This is why you’re getting downvoted by like… everyone. You’re coming across as deliberately being an ass. In case you’re wondering. I won’t see your reply.
I think you’re making significantly more out of my comment than what was actually said. I responded to a guy saying “me me me” with “you sound like a different group of people that also say me me me”. Any deeper meaning you are giving to that comment is on you.
As for downvotes, I clearly don’t care. Lemmy users tend to be wildly unrealistic when it comes to what democrats should do. I’m fine with getting downvoted for going against the grain. Somebody has to or this echo chamber will spiral out of control.
Imagine if the government was still shut down and we still didn’t have these subsidies.
I would approve. The government shutdown was serving my interests.
Some people rely on SNAP.
And if it never comes back, they will need to find alternative means of acquiring food. Maybe their state decides to go “fuck it” and replaces SNAP outright despite what the feds say. Or maybe there’s a grassroots movement that creates a new SNAP.
The important thing is, the longer the shutdown goes on, the less people will depend on the Trump regime to satisfy their needs.
Don’t see a lot of libertarian arguments around here.
Four upvotes on Lemmy for a right-wing “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” political position. Incredible.
I think the thing that people like you don’t realize is that government shutdowns almost never lead to legislation changes. It is basically just a political gesture that is meant to move public opinion only.
Dems maintained positive public opinion for a while, but it wasn’t going to last forever. Republicans were not going to cave on the issue, and after the longest shutdown in history, it’s possible their internal polling showed public opinion was starting to sour.
Your opinion (and a lot of others in this community) is to keep the government shut down forever and magically that’ll lead to all your legislations getting passed and nobody will be harmed by this shutdown and only republicans are viewed negatively. It’s a great fantasy, but in the real world, you don’t get everything, especially when you are not in control.
What I see here is the Republican Party voted to get rid of these subsidies, and you guys just want to blame Democrats because they didn’t want to shoot themselves in the foot on top of being smothered by the party in power.
There’s no way of knowing that. Some Republicans were starting to get whiny and jittery. But the Dems blinked first and saved the Republicans’ bacon.
And there’s no way for us to know if democrats were on the verge of over playing their hand. I would bet the party had internal polling that told them it was the right time to end the shutdown.
It’s also worth noting that many of the democrats that wanted to cave also cared about the people being harmed by the shutdown. Real people.
People on here do not care because, just like that other commenter, the shutdown served their best interests, so who cares. Well there are congress people that do care.
Sound like all my Republican friends.
So your friends are Republicans and you think the Dems did the right thing backing down on healthcare subsidies? Sounds like you are your Republican friends bud
It serves my interests so we should do that. That’s some Republican ass mentality.
You’re either lost or misinterpreted the comment, or don’t understand what the shutdown was about.
Nah, my Republican friends are selfish and would say something like “it serves my best interest” so we should keep doing that.
You’re turned around here bro, we all wanted the shutdown to continue so we could continue to have affordable healthcare, we wanted it for everyone, the wording above is throwing you because it’s one person saying that the shutdown was something that could have benefitted them, but it’s not a matter of selfishness, it’s literally a broad, life-saving program. (The ACA tax subsidies.)
If you were against the shuttdown… well it must be nice to afford premium healthcare or be on someone else’s policy.
You must be turned around cause that’s not the words the user wrote. If it was, I wouldn’t have written my comment.
You’re being deliberately obtuse then. Participating in bad faith, just looking for someone to call “republican” to stir up drama. This is why you’re getting downvoted by like… everyone. You’re coming across as deliberately being an ass. In case you’re wondering. I won’t see your reply.
I think you’re making significantly more out of my comment than what was actually said. I responded to a guy saying “me me me” with “you sound like a different group of people that also say me me me”. Any deeper meaning you are giving to that comment is on you.
As for downvotes, I clearly don’t care. Lemmy users tend to be wildly unrealistic when it comes to what democrats should do. I’m fine with getting downvoted for going against the grain. Somebody has to or this echo chamber will spiral out of control.