You guys complain that democrats don’t fight back and the moment one does you shit on them. Just like you asked for the old white man to step down, they gave you an educated black woman and y’all went “eeew not that”
And even after this year of Trump, you guys are still helping trump and Russia with this “Dems are worse than trump so I won’t vote” idiocy
But also what’s with complaining about who the democrats picked if you took no part in the primaries or local elections? Did you volunteer? Did you donate money or time to your favoured progressive politician? Have you done anything other than complain online about the candidate Dems picked cause you didn’t want to take part in picking them?
My dude, you understand that this is a channel primarily aimed at NON-USANALS talking about boycotting the USA and the reasons to do so, right? You get this, right? 'Cause it’s kind of in the group name (Boycott US) and in the title of the the post you’re rampaging through with your stupidity, complete with CANADIAN flags.
So, get this, most of the people here DID NOT VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP. Nor did they vote for Kamala Harris. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS AND THUS CANNOT VOTE FOR FUCKING ANYBODY!
Is that clear to you yet? Have you considered the possibility of maybe reading the fucking room before you babble your bullshit?
Continue to engage in strawmen that loses us elections I guess?
Your literal argument and approach are why the Dem’s lost in 16 and 24. Blame voters, tell them they just “need to vote for you because other side bad” and you’ll throw another election.
You already got a fascist elected twice, please don’t force it upon us aain.
The wrong democrats fight back. Because they’re not really fighting back. They’re fighting over slices of the pie. They never intend to give any of the pie to us. They just want us to vote it to them.
No, the false dichotomy that there are two sides and only one side is fascists is the reason fascists are in power. It’s fascists all the way down. That’s their secret. They haven’t infiltrated just one side.
Kind, gentle, cloyingly polite nanny-state fascists are still fascists even if you don’t immediately recognize them as such.
Agreed. It helps when you realize that fascism isn’t really an ideology for the ruling classes. It’s a tool that they use to prevent the working classes from gaining too much power. Once you realize that, it becomes obvious that capitalism is the real ideology, and that any capitalist will use fascism to protect their position.
I agree with everything you said except whether capitalism is the “real ideology”. I’d argue it too is just a tool. Ideologies themselves are a tool. I think when you go even further at taking away more and more of the disguise, the real enemy is and always has been an overdose of pure human greed and selfishness, unregulated and out of control. Capitalism is just a way for that greed and selfishness to stand out in public and say “Look at me! Celebrate me! I am a good thing, I am in your best interest! I can help you do things better!” but it’s just a costume that greed and selfishness is wearing to make itself socially acceptable as it grows further and further out of control…
It’s a really nice costume, logical in a lot of ways, makes sense, pretty convincing, but underneath it there’s still just naked greed and selfishness. If we want to truly better ourselves as a society, as a civilization, as humanity, maybe it’s time to set it all aside and really do some thinking about what the emperor looks like when he has no clothes.
Do we want to keep scrambling on top of each other to create the tallest possible pile of humans so the people on the top have the best view, or do we want to try starting to be fucking hippies and stuff again? We’ll never have zero greed and selfishness. And we don’t want to. If we had been completely comfortable, sustainable, happy living as hunter-gatherers, we still would be doing that today. Greed and selfishness are the drive that allow us to grow and explore and develop and become more than we are. But not out of control, not our only overriding goal, not short-sightedly destroying the very systems of life we need to grow, in the name of profit.
I disagree that greed and selfishness are innately driving characteristics to all of humanity, or that those traits motivate more growth and development than altruism and cooperation. Humans, after all, are a social species. I do agree that capitalism incentivizes greed and selfishness, and that in fact it is not possible to succeed at capitalism unless you are greedy and selfish. Because the material realities of our society make success reliant on selfishness, we have more people behaving selfishly than is “natural.”
Honestly though, this is why arguments about “human nature” are all bunk. We are products of our environments at all times. A hunter gatherer behaved very differently to a modern office worker, and both would struggle wildly to adapt to the other’s environment. There is no one pure human nature.
Take a hike corporate democrat.
He is indeed corpo scum. If (when) we live in Cyberpunk 2077 that dude will 100% be the face of a megacorp. Or at least a cyborg wearing his face.
He kinda reminds me of the bad scientist guy from Stranger Things who was conducting tests on El’s powers.
You guys complain that democrats don’t fight back and the moment one does you shit on them. Just like you asked for the old white man to step down, they gave you an educated black woman and y’all went “eeew not that”
And even after this year of Trump, you guys are still helping trump and Russia with this “Dems are worse than trump so I won’t vote” idiocy
To be fair, many of us were shitting on Newsom long before this thing with Trump.
Mild projection that shouldnt get a pass. Dem’s need to be better to get elected. Simple as.
Enjoy more trump i guess.
But also what’s with complaining about who the democrats picked if you took no part in the primaries or local elections? Did you volunteer? Did you donate money or time to your favoured progressive politician? Have you done anything other than complain online about the candidate Dems picked cause you didn’t want to take part in picking them?
My dude, you understand that this is a channel primarily aimed at NON-USANALS talking about boycotting the USA and the reasons to do so, right? You get this, right? 'Cause it’s kind of in the group name (Boycott US) and in the title of the the post you’re rampaging through with your stupidity, complete with CANADIAN flags.
So, get this, most of the people here DID NOT VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP. Nor did they vote for Kamala Harris. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS AND THUS CANNOT VOTE FOR FUCKING ANYBODY!
Is that clear to you yet? Have you considered the possibility of maybe reading the fucking room before you babble your bullshit?
Continue to engage in strawmen that loses us elections I guess?
Your literal argument and approach are why the Dem’s lost in 16 and 24. Blame voters, tell them they just “need to vote for you because other side bad” and you’ll throw another election.
You already got a fascist elected twice, please don’t force it upon us aain.
Neoliberalism is what led to Trump in the first place.
“Fighting back” would mean dragging the Overton window hard to the left…not just camping out at the edge of fascism and saying, “This is fine.”
Zohran Mamdani got a majority of the vote while Kamala Harris did not in her race.
Who the fuck in this thread said anything about not voting? Be specific and cite the comments.
Or quit your bullshit and STFU.
Also, fuck off with your racist and sexist lies about why people didn’t vote for the goddamn prosecutor who sprinted right as hard as she could.
We don’t give a damn about the united sakes and your two political cults.
The wrong democrats fight back. Because they’re not really fighting back. They’re fighting over slices of the pie. They never intend to give any of the pie to us. They just want us to vote it to them.
You are the reason the fascists are in power. Even if the “wrong democrats” fight back, they are still infinitely better than literal fascists.
No, the false dichotomy that there are two sides and only one side is fascists is the reason fascists are in power. It’s fascists all the way down. That’s their secret. They haven’t infiltrated just one side.
Kind, gentle, cloyingly polite nanny-state fascists are still fascists even if you don’t immediately recognize them as such.
Agreed. It helps when you realize that fascism isn’t really an ideology for the ruling classes. It’s a tool that they use to prevent the working classes from gaining too much power. Once you realize that, it becomes obvious that capitalism is the real ideology, and that any capitalist will use fascism to protect their position.
I agree with everything you said except whether capitalism is the “real ideology”. I’d argue it too is just a tool. Ideologies themselves are a tool. I think when you go even further at taking away more and more of the disguise, the real enemy is and always has been an overdose of pure human greed and selfishness, unregulated and out of control. Capitalism is just a way for that greed and selfishness to stand out in public and say “Look at me! Celebrate me! I am a good thing, I am in your best interest! I can help you do things better!” but it’s just a costume that greed and selfishness is wearing to make itself socially acceptable as it grows further and further out of control…
It’s a really nice costume, logical in a lot of ways, makes sense, pretty convincing, but underneath it there’s still just naked greed and selfishness. If we want to truly better ourselves as a society, as a civilization, as humanity, maybe it’s time to set it all aside and really do some thinking about what the emperor looks like when he has no clothes.
Do we want to keep scrambling on top of each other to create the tallest possible pile of humans so the people on the top have the best view, or do we want to try starting to be fucking hippies and stuff again? We’ll never have zero greed and selfishness. And we don’t want to. If we had been completely comfortable, sustainable, happy living as hunter-gatherers, we still would be doing that today. Greed and selfishness are the drive that allow us to grow and explore and develop and become more than we are. But not out of control, not our only overriding goal, not short-sightedly destroying the very systems of life we need to grow, in the name of profit.
I disagree that greed and selfishness are innately driving characteristics to all of humanity, or that those traits motivate more growth and development than altruism and cooperation. Humans, after all, are a social species. I do agree that capitalism incentivizes greed and selfishness, and that in fact it is not possible to succeed at capitalism unless you are greedy and selfish. Because the material realities of our society make success reliant on selfishness, we have more people behaving selfishly than is “natural.”
Honestly though, this is why arguments about “human nature” are all bunk. We are products of our environments at all times. A hunter gatherer behaved very differently to a modern office worker, and both would struggle wildly to adapt to the other’s environment. There is no one pure human nature.
Don’t come to us! Fighting back needs to happen within our country