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UniversalMonk, PapaSkwat, DonaldJMusk, TheSilentNickel, QuantumTickler, his communities are full of Astro turfing sock puppets.

EDIT: My list of sock puppets. I doubt it’s perfect and I may have picked up a few that weren’t him

Area15@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
DonaldJMusk@lemmy.today
EndlessApollo@hilariouschaos.com
EndlessApollo@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
KaratinBandit@feddit.uk
PapaSkwat@lemmings.world
PapaSkwat@lemmy.today
PhilipsHurtFeelings@crazypeople.online
QuantumTickle@maga.place
Rhoerii@lemy.lol
Snatchdaddy@hilariouschaos.com
TheSilentNickel@feddit.org
barrygoldwater@lemmy.wtf
donaldjmusk@maga.place
thesilentnickel@lemmy.today
thesilentnickel@lemmyusa.com
donaldjmusk@lemmyusa.com
quantumtickler@hilariouschaos.com
quantumtickler@feddit.org
quantumtickler@lemmy.myserv.one

To the mods of this comm, I understand this isn’t a post complaining about a mod action taken against me. It’s hardly even a complaint against a mod, although he does mod a handful of communities. I know it’s a hard-to-prove personal message that the accused will deny sending or say was a joke he told a troll, his word vs mine. But this is beyond the usual actions mods take. This is abuse of the fediverse, harrassment, ban evasion, and vote manipulation.

I believe the situation to be self evident even without this message that the users who frequent DonaldJMusk’s comms are primarily him with a new username on a new server and they’re leaking out into other communities with ill intent.

If action is to be taken against this post, I ask that it be locked and not deleted.

  • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
    156·
    23 hours ago

    I’m an Admin on lemmy.today and the accusation that DJM is UM (and others) occasionally comes up. Both I and @[email protected] have looked into it and neither of us have ever been able to find any kind of proof.

    I’ve engaged with several Lemmy users who supposedly had proof but they were unable to provide anything better than what OP has up above. It’s always loose conjecture and “trust me, bro”.

    Yes the DJM account is annoying but that’s not enough to get banned from our instance.

    • _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexusEnglish
      82·
      23 hours ago

      I kinda figured. it seems to me that a lot of the accusations we see in YPTB and elsewhere is people just saying bad actors are UM, and a lot of people just agreeing without any skepticism at all because they don’t like UM. which is fine, they don’t have to, but it seems like a lot of the tings UM is accused of are just from this negative feedback loop of rumors. at this point it wouldn’t surprise me to see somebody claim he eats babies.

        • Universal Monk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          5·
          22 hours ago

          And the admin also called out OP for likely being the one to having alt names, because OP’s account is only a few hours old and the comments in this thread are the only comments he has made. I’ve never even interacted with OP and he’s not banned from any of my communties, so I’m not even sure how my name came up anyway! lol

          • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.todayEnglish
            5·
            22 hours ago

            This is a big kicker for me. I have an identical name on a separate instance only for when .today gets attacked. This isn’t that fucking serious! Who goes out of their way to manipulate votes? Like I treat the numbers as feedback as compared to an indictment.

            I oddly got accused of it by some taco butt plug braincel, but found the entire idea laughable. Which much like relationship cheaters, makes me think they were actually doing it and projecting.

            These numbers aren’t real or important, why do some people take them so seriously?

            • Universal Monk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              51·
              22 hours ago

              I’m baffled at how many people seem to take this all seriously. I ain’t got time or the brain cells to switch between 300 accounts, alt usernames, instances, etc. Just cuss me out here. Not only that, these people they are accusing of me being, don’t even post the same shit I do, so why would I create alternate names just to post stuff that opposed my views?

              So wait, am I every socialist on here now? Or every anarchist? Or every republican? Or every democrat? Or every libertarian? Do people not realize that those are not the same things? Am I all of those now?!

              Isn’t “astroturfing” supposed to mean having the same message? All the names they are listing post all kinds of different shit. So what would the point?

              I have actually chuckled outloud by some of the comments here. People really need to go outside more. lol

              • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.todayEnglish
                5·
                21 hours ago

                Someone just linked me my mod file, and I apparently pissed off someone very active here cause I am perma banned from so many communities I never interact with.

                It seems like this is early adoption, but current Reddit.

                They flagged me for serial down voting, but votes are public and I very rarely down vote anyone.

                If I gave enough of a shit I’d investigate & make a post here, but I got better things to do with my time. Other than today, cause I did babysit a popular post I made this morning for a few hours

      • Universal Monk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        4·
        22 hours ago

        In the old days, at least people were annoyed because of things I actually did by not voting for their hero. This thread is a whole 'nother level of weird though. I’ve read every comment, and I still haven’t figured out what it is people think I’m doing or what my goal would be. What are they mad about again? I see they are mad, but I don’t know why. I’m 300 people or something now? I’ve never even interacted with OP and his account is only 17 hours old. What in the world?! lol

    • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
      64·
      19 hours ago

      First of all- BULLSHIT. I have brought evidence to you and you chose to dismiss it.

      And I told you- you could have talked to JordanLund, he’s got the proof. You chose not to. You’re protecting him.

    • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.todayEnglish
      53·
      22 hours ago

      That last sentence is why I’m a big fan! Let idiots get ratio’d. But I also wonder why our very laissez faire instance gets ddos’d so often.

    • th3raid0r@tucson.social
      76·
      22 hours ago

      Yeah, whatever man - I had a huge “attack” one day, and wouldn’t you know, about 4-5 of the usernames listed here were involved in that. Odd that. Also, their traffic patterns were hugely suspect.

      I spent hours into investigating that “perhaps these are real users” and nope, they fell right into my honeypot routes. UM and CM0002 are bots, full stop.

      They also aren’t Tucsonans, which is why I didn’t approve their signup.

      I don’t think many admins actually know how to properly audit for bots - and honestly, that problem is harder when you’re a global instance.

      It’s part of why I don’t think global instances will work for the fediverse, too vulnerable to bot manipulation. We need proof of humanity - and that scales better with local nodes.

    • ProudAntifa@lemmings.worldOP
      77·
      23 hours ago

      Ok, now do DonaldJMusk and the other dozen accounts.

      I know you can’t because of them being on other servers that aren’t playing ball but that kinda feels like the point.

      You’re just the bartender, but once this conversation is over I’m done with Lemmy. Not your instance, all of Lemmy. He’s following and harassing me everywhere and the most you can do is call him annoying.

      Fuck you.

      • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.todayEnglish
        7·
        21 hours ago

        I insulted this idiot once or twice, and they didn’t follow me around. I’m curious how hard you went in the paint.

        Edit: someone linked my mod file and apparently that idiot perma banned me from a dozen communities I have never interacted with. So my point is moot.

      • _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexusEnglish
        72·
        22 hours ago

        you’re a brand new account making accusations, but not providing any proof to back those up, and suddenly after less than a day you’ve had enough of Lemmy and are leaving?

        sounds like you just wanted to stir the pot for the attention.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        21·
        16 hours ago
        • Day old account
        • Op makes post that has loose evidence
        • OP makes claim and gives no proof of that claim
        • OP is told their evidence doesn’t make sense by two different admins independently
        • OP then leaves because of it
        • People then come in believing the thing made up and attack users who give them proof otherwise, like OP.

        Bravo. And they say we’re the bots. Or Tankies. But Hexbear said we’re bad guys for not being Tankie enough. What a wild 48 hours it’s been for us. Somehow too far left but not left enough. Somehow asking for proof is a lie.

      • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
        84·
        23 hours ago

        Ok, now do DonaldJMusk and the other dozen accounts.

        When I say “DJM” I am referring to DonaldJMusk.

        He’s following and harassing me everywhere and the most you can do is call him annoying.

        You obviously have another account because the one you’re commenting from is only 6 hours old, has just 1 post (this one) and only 17 comments (all in here). I checked because I wanted to see one of these accounts harassing you and look into it. Unfortunately there’s nothing for me to see so there’s nothing I can do.

        My suggestion would be to report the user accounts that are causing you grief to the admins of the accounts home instance and then block them. Takes like 15 seconds to do both of those actions.

        Fuck you.

        Sadly my wife isn’t into sharing, otherwise I might be interested. 😘