• watson@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    In short, yes. While I don’t know, the specifics about the fallout from the bombs dropped on Japan, but I do know that the fallout from the Chernobyl disaster in Ukraine created a nuclear fallout cloud that drifted all the way to Germany and affected everyone in between. There was acid rain and elevated radiation levels for months.

    And although it did not create a cloud of radioactive waste, the Fukushima disaster in 2011 released an enormous amount of contaminated water into the ocean around the plant that can still be traced.

    Edit: the amount of people going out of their way to be combative, rude, and to try to start an argument is quite disappointing. If you don’t like my answer, just downvote and move on.

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      3 days ago

      Respectfully, I would ask you to read much further into this topic before dispersing your own opinions.

      The Continental United States is far more radioactive than Japan is.

      Imagine that you have a bathtub full of water and I dump a 5 lb bag of salt in it. The volume of salt in that tub has gone up by millions of percentage points. But if you take that same tub and dump it in a lake, the average salinity in the lake has gone up by less than 0.001%. . Tub is the Sea of Japan. The lake is the planetary ocean system. Given enough time as the two are connected, the “salinity” will equal out.

      Keep in mind just because something is elevated does not mean that it is deadly. Depending on where you live in the world, you probably experience something between 2 to 3 mSv a year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_radiation

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        3 days ago

        Nothing I said was a “opinion“, and unless you can actually point to something I said that was incorrect, I don’t really see the point of contention here. And whataboutism isn’t a really great argument.

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          Your first sentence “In short, yes.” is wrong. The start of your second sentence “While I don’t know” is correct reading the rest of the comment. You’re talking apples and oranges when you campare Chernobyl with the bombs on Japan. Also the part of acid rain and elevated radiation levels don’t make sense to me, as far as I know these are different phenomena with different causes.

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            2 days ago

            I’m not in the mood for a silly argument, especially when you keep saying that what I said was correct.

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      3 days ago

      Pretty sure the fallout from Chernobyl was all the radioactive particles dispersed into the atmosphere by the initial explosion of reactor 4, and the subsequent fires of radioactive and contaminated materials.
      Literally a “dirty bomb” dispersing radioactive material, instead of the radioactive material being converted directly to energy

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        3 days ago

        Yep uncontrolled meltdown and the fires carried the hot particles up into the stratosphere to disperse.

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        3 days ago

        That’s precisely what I said, with slightly different wording. But thanks for the additional detail.

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          I mean, I guess? Kinda?

          You said you didn’t know the specific on the bombs dropped.
          Ok, so 0 information on the bomb dropped.

          But that Chernobyl created a massive cloud of fallout that impacted neighbouring countries and caused acid rain.
          Well, that’s true. But that wasn’t a fusion explosion.

          So, it felt like you were trying to relate 2 unrelated things. Like an apples-to-oranges situation.

          I feel that I clarified that the bombs dropped were designed to converted all fusable material to energy. They were literally designed to weaponise fusion.
          And that the fallout from Chernobyl wasn’t caused by material turning into energy (ie fusion), but from particle dispersion.

          So, I guess.
          In that you said you had 0 knowledge of Thing A, and stated an unrelated fact about Thing B. Where both things are true, and are related by the fact that nuclear fuel is involved. But that’s as far as the relationships go

          But everything you said after “yes” does nothing to support the “yes”

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            2 days ago

            That’s a really long way to admit that I was right, and you just didn’t like my answer anyway.

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              With all respect no you were not correct.

              It’s two completely different scenarios with different transmission vectors and risks

              To put this in other terms you are conflating and misrepresenting facts either intentionally or unintentionally and it comes across as fear-mongering misinformation to those who have a more in depth grasp on radiology.

              You’re more likely to be exposed to cancer-causing levels of radiation from a coa firedl power plant than any detonated nuclear device.

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                2 days ago

                Thank you for confirming I haven’t seriously misread something here.
                Felt like I was taking crazy pills for a second there!

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                2 days ago

                With all respect

                You do not speak with respect. And, with all due respect, I’m not interested in having an argument. Have a nice day.

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                  2 days ago

                  Read a book or two on the subject matter please. There’s nothing to argue about. You are factually incorrect. I’m not being mean just explaining why you are incorrect and suggesting you enrich yourself.

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      2 days ago

      If you don’t have a good answer, it’s better to just not comment.

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        2 days ago

        If people like me didn’t comment, how could you possibly justify your pedantry?