• NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
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      11 months ago

      Cool I will just vote for trump since it is all the same then.

      I don’t give a shit what you want to tell yourself to make you feel better about actively supporting genocide.

      Here is a radical fucking idea, run a fucking candidate who doesn’t support genocide.

      It won’t matter soon, all the people that matter are dying or dead already, after that people will just forget about it and them anyway, and then you guys will have your way about it.

      You are supporting the guaranteed death now, vs what might happen later, and the actual people now will pay the price for your hypothetical actions in the future.

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        11 months ago

        If you prefer the option of “genocide with a reduction of rights from my neighbors” more than “genocide alone”, then that’s you’re right as a citizen to choose it.

        And as much as you like to pretend that not voting somehow absolves you, it doesn’t. To truly not be liable you need to stop paying taxes. Otherwise your participation in our economy props up genocide.

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          11 months ago

          Once again I can not stop it but I can not give it my active support.

          All of my neighbors rights? What about the rights of children not to die? We might be able to roll anything he does back, you can not roll back death

          You ask me to support your hypothetical about what trump might do, I know what Biden is doing.

          Given the options of guaranteed genocide or potential, why not pick the non guaranteed option?

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              11 months ago

              If only I could. The government takes all my taxes out without me being given the option. Yay mandatory sales tax!

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                11 months ago

                You could. You could move out of the US and refuse to buy any US products. It would come at great personal cost to you, but it would mean you are completely not complicit.

                Do your morals stop when you have to personally give or sacrifice? You refuse to vote because it would make you complicit, but you don’t refuse to live in and contribute to a country that makes you complicit.

                To be clear, I don’t think this makes you a hypocrite. I’m just further pointing out that your absolutist morals aren’t realistically sensible, and that your morals clearly aren’t absolute if there’s boundaries you won’t cross to meet them.

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                  11 months ago

                  Give me the money to afford it and get me and my family a visa to a different place.

                  There is a difference between what I can actually do and what I wish I could.

                  Here’s the thing, other countries don’t want to accept Americans because they see how we are.

                  So while theoretically I could do what you say, it’s going to take tens to hundreds of thousands to pull off which I can not to without abandoning my responsibilities to my children.

                  So, I do what little I can.

                  Perhaps, instead of working against me for the worst democratic candidate, you people to try to nominate someone who is actually worth a damn it does not support fucking genocide!

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                    11 months ago

                    Got it, those innocent kids only matter if it isn’t an inconvenience to your wallet or requires effort. Moving away for a clean conscience is too much, but voting for what’s the best realistic scenario is an affront to your values.

                    So go ahead. Vote how you want. But know that if you don’t vote against Trump, you’re helping out Israel. It seems you’re just fine with that though.