Lets be clear though, reddit is only worse than lemmy because it is centralized by one group of douchebags.
Lemmy has plenty of shitty moderation too, and arguably is worse at dealing with it within any given instance due to the lack of proper mod tools, the way posts that are deleted remove entire comment sections from being accessible, the lack of any appeals system and I’m sure a few other things I don’t remember off the top of my head.
Its a people problem, and its a style of organization problem with this style of forum.
I agree. Lemmy has a ton of awful moderators that abuse their power just to support “their” viewpoint.
Lemmy is better though because it at least has the potential for people to have better moderation, as well as a modlog that keeps mods somewhat accountable and let’s people see what is being censored.
as well as a modlog that keeps mods somewhat accountable and let’s people see what is being censored.
I’m not sure if this is still true, but you can get around that though if you ban the person before removing the comment. Also, some communities have a delay on showing what’s been removed.
I agree. Lemmy has a ton of awful moderators that abuse their power just to support “their” viewpoint.
Indeed. Famously the elephant in the room of the ml instance where they’re gone so far off the deep end on a lot of topics that they end up in essence supporting extremist conservative views/human rights abuses and worse. This is either with direct support with the weird straight up dictatorship praises many sing, being so toxic and hard to talk to that they push people away (who I hope know they certainly aren’t the average left leaning person) or the awful thing many do where they feel any incremental positive change is bad, and the only good change is a magic overnight revolution and shift to 100% exactly their view of how society should work, that they’ll also never spell out.
Lemmy is better though because it at least has the potential for people to have better moderation
In some ways yes, in some ways the opposite (as mentioned with the lack of tools).
Regarding the modlog, maybe I am missing something, but when things are deleted here, its actually a little bit worse than reddit sometimes in that you won’t be able to immediately see the content that was deleted of yours, and then for mod logs, I believe (As I am not 100% sure) that comment removals disappear when the user who made the comment is banned as well, so its kinda false transparency.
Fuck reddit, and fuck censorship.
Lets be clear though, reddit is only worse than lemmy because it is centralized by one group of douchebags.
Lemmy has plenty of shitty moderation too, and arguably is worse at dealing with it within any given instance due to the lack of proper mod tools, the way posts that are deleted remove entire comment sections from being accessible, the lack of any appeals system and I’m sure a few other things I don’t remember off the top of my head.
Its a people problem, and its a style of organization problem with this style of forum.
I agree. Lemmy has a ton of awful moderators that abuse their power just to support “their” viewpoint.
Lemmy is better though because it at least has the potential for people to have better moderation, as well as a modlog that keeps mods somewhat accountable and let’s people see what is being censored.
I’m not sure if this is still true, but you can get around that though if you ban the person before removing the comment. Also, some communities have a delay on showing what’s been removed.
Indeed. Famously the elephant in the room of the ml instance where they’re gone so far off the deep end on a lot of topics that they end up in essence supporting extremist conservative views/human rights abuses and worse. This is either with direct support with the weird straight up dictatorship praises many sing, being so toxic and hard to talk to that they push people away (who I hope know they certainly aren’t the average left leaning person) or the awful thing many do where they feel any incremental positive change is bad, and the only good change is a magic overnight revolution and shift to 100% exactly their view of how society should work, that they’ll also never spell out.
In some ways yes, in some ways the opposite (as mentioned with the lack of tools).
Regarding the modlog, maybe I am missing something, but when things are deleted here, its actually a little bit worse than reddit sometimes in that you won’t be able to immediately see the content that was deleted of yours, and then for mod logs, I believe (As I am not 100% sure) that comment removals disappear when the user who made the comment is banned as well, so its kinda false transparency.