TL;DR: Mozilla is killing localization on Support Mozilla, overwriting articles written by humans with machine generated translations. Although Mozilla knows that their AI doesn’t localize or adhere to style guides, Mozilla is going live with it anyway. I thank locale leaders and localizers for their tireless efforts. Locale leaders seem to be obviated by AI, and Mozilla has nothing to say about it.

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    11 hours ago

    Anytime I see an anti-mozilla article, it’s abundantly clear that it’s an astroturfing campaign to make Firefox look bad. You NEVER see these articles about chrome, brave, opera, etc which are all much much worse.

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      44 minutes ago

      Put it this way, I don’t trust a corpo browser and never have. 2008 or whenever it was that everyone switched to Chrome, I stayed with Firefox, which I’d been using for a few years already. I remember upgrading to Firefox 2.0.

      I’m interested when Firefox is pulling this shit and don’t give a fuck otherwise, because I already assume the others do this.

      Idk if we’ll ever get anything decent out of the Servo browser engine. That would be ideal IMO. Mozilla is starting to become part of the problem.

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      4 hours ago

      The way they are forcing AI on everyone and into every aspect of their browser especially when a large part of the people who use Firefox hates that shit is going to end Firefox.

      The reason you don’t hear it about all those other browsers is because people have always known they don’t give a fuck what the end user wants.

      Firefox used to be different. But all good things deteriorate over time. Watching it happen in real time to a browser we all use and used to love is why you see it so much posted especially in places with like minded individuals like Lemmy.

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        58 minutes ago

        There’s AI in Firefox? I’m running it as new as I can in Arch and have never seen a hint of it.

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          48 minutes ago

          Sidebar on the left has one of those star icons that opens an AI chatbot, or you can hit ctrl + alt + x

          They keep mentioning AI features, but I haven’t really seen anything annoying yet.

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            32 minutes ago

            Oh ok. I rarely use any browser features beyond bookmarks. Thats pretty much all I need from a browser. So I don’t explore the side bars and stuff.

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      4 hours ago

      Calling objections to what some unelected jerks in the foundation (which is a supposedly public organization) are doing is not “anti-Mozilla”. And I would first suspect of astroturfing everyone pretending it is.

      Raising voices and putting pressure about things spoiling something is caring about it. And yes, people who care try to make real effect and not just safely complain to be ignored.

      Mozilla honestly has been becoming worse and worse since Australis.

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      7 hours ago

      I’d say that’s because here on Lemmy, we already don’t give a fuck about and wouldn’t touch Chrome or Edge with a ten foot pole, but some of us trusted Mozzila, which is now starting to do dumb AI shit. And having your trust broken hurts.

      Astroturfing would not be recommending LibreWolf as an alternative.

      If you look into alternatives, Brave is one that’s usually mentioned but there’s always someone quickly posting all of the dumb shit they did.

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      6 hours ago

      What an odd comparison. What differentiates Mozilla from others is their close relationship with their community. Just read their manifest and you will see Immediately why they are getting flag for humiliating their own supporters.

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      4 hours ago

      This is bullshit. Brave literally have a webpage mentioning their shit. You are trying to gaslight us all.

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      10 hours ago

      Eh, I’m not about to stop using Firefox, but the complaint is valid. They nuked a bunch of work from volunteers without notice in favor of shitty auto translate.

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      9 hours ago

      Almost all Microsoft KB articles are machine translated.
      Every time I open a reddit article from a search it attempts to auto-translate which immediately looks and reads very inhuman.

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      10 hours ago

      Yeah, I am astroturfing. It can’t be that I actually believed Mozilla when they said that localizers were heroic.

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      8 hours ago

      But this is not about Firefox delelopment, but about community getting overthrown for apparently no reason.

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      9 hours ago

      Lol, bashing that shitty “org” is a civic duty. Fuck Mozilla.

      • pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        4 hours ago

        They like that the money goes to activism on African countries instead of the fcking browser. Just until one year ago they started to work again on features.

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          3 hours ago

          I left that sinking ship in 2021. Just watching it sink slowly from the river’s edge.